swered vnto myne Ordinary in thys matter. And therfore as I haue sayd before, you shall do me great wrong, to vexe me twise for one matter, since I haue susteined this long imprisonment, besides the losse of my liuing.
Roper. You were a very vnmete man to bee an Archdeacon.
Phil. I know I was as mete a man, as hee that hath it now.
Cooke. A mete man quod a? he troubled maister Roper, and the hole country.
Phil. There was neuer poore Archdeacon so handled at your handes, as I am: and that without any iust cause ye be able to laye vnto me.
Cooke Thou art no Archdeacon.
Phil. I am Archdeacon still, although an other be in possession of my liuinge: for I was neuer depryued by any lawe.
Cooke. No syr, that nedeth not: for a notorious heretike should haue no Ordinary proceding about his depriuaciō: but the byshop may at knowledge therof procede to depriuacion.
Phil. Maister Doctor, you knowe that the common lawe is other wise. And besides this the statutes of thys Realme bee otherwise, which geueth this benefyte to euery person, though he be an heretyke, to enioy his liuinge, vntill he be put to death for the same.
Cholm. No, there thou art deceaued.
Phil. Vpon the liuing I passe not. But the vniust dealing greueth mee, that I should be thus troubled for my conscience, contrary to all lawe.
Cholm. Why? wil you not agree, that the Quenes maiestie may cause you to be examined of your fayth?
Phil. Aske you maister Doctor Cooke, and he wyll tell you, that the temporall magistrates haue nothing to do with matters of fayth, for determinaciō therof. And S. Ambrose saith Diuina imperatoriæ maiestati nō sunt subiecta,
Diuina imperatoriae maiestati non sunt subiecta, that the things of God are not subiect to the power and authority of Princes. verum ea quae sunt divina, imperatoriae potestati non esse subjecta. [Accurate citation]
Cooke. No? maye not the temporall power commit you to be examined of your fayth to the Byshop?
Phil. Yea syr, I denye not that: but you wil not graunt that the same maye examine any, of theyr owne authority.
Cooke. Let hym be had awaye.
Phil Your maiestership promised mee, the last time I was before you, I should see your commission, by what authority you do cal mee, and whether I (by the same) be bound to answere to so much as you demaund.
Roper. Let him se the commission.
The scribe. What? then he exhibited it to maister Roper, and was about to open the same.
Cooke. No, what wil you do? he shal not se it.
Phil. Then do you me wrong, to cal me and
vexe me, not shewing your authoritye in thys behalfe.
Cooke. If we do you wrong, complain on vs: and in the meane whyle thou shalte lye in the Lollardes tower.
Phil. Sir, I am a poore gentleman: therefore I trust of your gentlenes you wil not commit me to so vyle aud strait a place, beyng founde no hainous trespasser.
Cooke. Thou art no gentleman.
phil. Yes that I am.
Cooke. An heretike is no gentleman. For he is a gentleman that hath gentle condicions.
phil. The offense cannot take away the state of a gentlemā. as long as he lyueth, although he were a traytour. But I meane not to boast of my gentlemanshyp, but wyll put it vnder my foote, since you do no more esteme it.
Story. What? wyll you suffer thys heretyke to prate with you al this day?
Cooke. He saith he is a gentleman.
Story. A gentleman quoth a? he is a vyle heretike knaue. For an heretike is no gentlemā: Let the keper of Lollardes tower come in, and haue hym away.
The keper Here syr.
phil Take thys man wyth you to the Lollardes tower, or els to the bishops Colehouse.
phil. Syr, if I were a dog, you could not appoynt me a worse and more vile place. But I must be contente with what so euer iniurye you do offer mee. God gyue you a more merciful harte you are very cruel vpon one that hath neuer offended you. I praye you (master Cholmely) shewe me some frendship, that I be not caried to so vile a place. And hee called me aside, and sayd.
[Back to Top]Cholm. I am not skilfull of theyr doings, neyther of theyr lawes: I cannot tell what they meane. I would I could do you good.
Phil. I am contente to go whither you will haue mee. There was neuer man more cruelly handeled then I am at your handes, that without any iust cause knowen should thus be intreated.
Story Shal we suffer this hereticke thus to reproue vs? haue him hence.
Phil. God forgyue you, and giue you more mercifull hartes, and shewe you more mercy in the time of nede. Et quod facis, fac citius.
Et quod facis, fac citius Do quickly that you haue in hand [dicit ei Iesus] quod facis fac citius. [Accurate citation]
Story. Do you not heare how he maketh vs Iudasses?
Philpot was quoting Christ's words to Judas at the Last Supper.
Phil. That is after your owne vnderstāding.
After thys I with. iiii. other moo were brought to the keepers house, where as wee supped in pater noster row, and after supper I was called vp to a chamber by the Archdeacon of Londons seruaunt, and that in hys masters name: he offred mee a bedde for that night.