Boner. In dede Saint Peter saith so. Why then I aske of you what your iudgemente is of the sacrament of the aulter?
phil. My Lorde, saint Ambrose sayeth that the disputacion of fayth ought to be in the congregation, in the hearinge of the people, and that I am not bound to render accompt there of to euery man priuately, onles it be to edify. But now I cannot shewe you my mynd, but I muste run vpon the pikes in daunger of my life therfore. Wherfore as the said doctor said vnto Valentinian the Emperoure, so saie I to your Lordship. Tolle legem et fiet certamen.
Tolle legem et fiet certamen Take awaye the lawe, and I shall reason with you [Unable to locate in Migne]
Boner. I perceyue you are learned. I would haue suche as you be about me, but you must come and be of the Churche. For there is but one Churche.
phil. God forbid I shuld be out of the church. I am sure I am within the same: for I knowe as I am taught by the scripture, that there is but one catholike church, vna columba, vna sponsa, vna dilecta. One Doue, one Spouse, one beloued congregation, out of the which there is no saluation.
Boner. How chaunseth it then that you goo out of the same, and walke not with vs?
phil. My Lorde, I am sure I am within the bondes of the churche, whereupon she is builded, which is the woord of God.
Boner. What age are ye of?
phil. I am foure and fourty.
Boner. you are not nowe of the same faythe your Godfathers and God mothers promised for you, in the which you were baptised.
phil. yes that I thanke God I am. For I was baptised into the fayth of Christe, which I now hold.
Boner. How can that be? there is but one fayth.
phil. I am assured of that, by saint Paule, saing that there is but one God, one fayth, and one baptisme, of the which I am.
Boner. You were xx. yere a go of an other fayth, then you be now.
Phil. In dede (my Lord) to tell you playne, I was then nullius fidei, of no fayth, a neuter, a wicked lyuer, neyther hote nor colde.
Boner. Why, do you not think that we haue now the true faith
phil. I desire your Lordship to hold me excused, for answering at this time. I am sure that Gods woorde throughlye with the primatiue churche, and all the auncient writers do agree with this faith I am of.
Boner. Well, I promise you I meane you no more hurte than to myne owne person. I wil
wyll not therefore burthen you wyth youre conscience as nowe. I maruaile that you are so mery in prison as you be, synging and reioycing as the prophet saith, exultantes in rebus pessimis,
exultantes in rebus pessimis. reioycing in your naughtynes. [qui laetantur cum malefecerint] et exultant in rebus pessimis.
phil. My Lorde, the myrth that we make is but in singing certaine psalmes, according as we are cōmaunded by S. Paule, wyllyng vs to be merye in the Lorde, singing together in Hymnes and Psalmes. And I trust your lordship cannot be displeased with that.
Boner. We may say vnto you as Christ sayd in the Gospel: Tibiis cecinimus vobis, & non planxistis.
Tibiis cecinimus vobis, & non planxistis Not translated. We played on the pipes for you, and you did not beat your breasts dicunt cecinimus vobis et non saltastis lamentavimus et non planxistis. [Clearly this passage in St. Matthew is being cited, but adapted to fit into the context of Bonner's words.]
Phil. And I recited oute the text vnto hym, which made nothing to hys purpose, vnlesse he would haue vs to mourne, because they, if they laugh, syng still sorowfull thynges vnto vs, threatening fagottes and fyre.
We are my Lorde, in a darke comfortles place, and therefore it behoueth vs to be mery, least as Salomon saith, sorowfulnes eate vp our hart. Therefore I trust your lordshyp wil not be angry for our singing of psalmes, since S. Paule sayth: if anye man be of an vprighte mynde, let him syng. And we therefore, to testifye that we are of an vpright minde to God (though we be in misery) do syng.
[Back to Top]Boner. I wil trouble you no further as now. If I can do you any good, I will be glad to do it for you. God be with you good maister Philpot, and geue you good nyght. Haue hym to the cellar, and let hym drynke a cup of wyne.
Thus I departed, and by my lordes Register I was brought to his cellar doore, where I dranke a good cup of wyne. And my lordes Chaplaine M. Cousyn folowed mee, takynge acquaintance, sayinge that I was welcome, and wished that I would not be singular.
phil. I am wel taught the contrary by Salomon, saying. Væ soli,
Vae soli. Wo be to hym that is alone. vae soli [quia cum ruerit non habet sublevantem.] [Philpot attributes this to Solomon; the Song of Solomon is the next book in the O.T. Did Solomon have anything to do with the writing of Ecclesiastes?]
This is Philpot's note. A fyt is a section of a poem or a song; a canto [OED].
BOner. Mayster Philpot, it hath pleased my Lordes to take paynes here to day, to dyne with my poore Archdeacon, and in the Dynner tyme it chaunced vs to haue communication of you.