me vnto you, that I should haue bene iudged the next daye after: but promise hath not bene kept with me, to my farther grefe. I looke for none other but death at your handes. And I am as ready to yelde my life in Christes cause, as you be to require it.

Boner. Lo, what a wylfull man this is. By my faith it is but folly to reason with him, neither with anye of these heretickes. I am sorye that you wyl be no more tractable, and that I am compelled to shew extremity agaynst you.

phil. My Lord, you neede not to shew extremity against me, vnles you lyst. Neyther by the law (as I haue sayde) you haue anye thyng to do with mee, for that you are not myne Ordinary,  

Commentary     Close

Apparently Philpot, who was arrested following the publication of his account of the debate in convocation in October 1553, was examined by royal commissioners, as well as by Gardiner, before being sent to Bonner.

Boner. Why, the Queenes Commissioners sent you hyther vnto me, vpon your examination hadde before them. I knowe not well the cause. But I am sure, they woulde not haue sent you hither to me, vnles you hadde made some talke to them, otherwise then it becommeth a Christen man.

Phil. My Lord, in deede they sent me hither with out anye occasion than ministred by me. Onelye they layde vnto me the disputation I made in the Conuocation house, requiringe me to answer the same, and to recant it. The which because I woulde not do, they sent me hyther to your Lordship.

Boner. Why did you not answer them therto?

Phil. For that they were temporal men, and ought not to bee Iudges in spirituall causes, whereof they dema?ded me without shewing any authoritye, whereby I was bounde to answer them, and hereuppon they committed mee to your pryson.

Boner. In dede I remember now you maintayned open heresy in my Dioces.  

Commentary     Close

Bonner is referring to the debate in convocation in October 1553, which was held at St Paul's.

phil. My Lord, I stand styl vpon my lawfull plea in thys behalfe, that thoughe it were as great heresye as you suppose it, yet I oughte not to bee troubled therefore, in respect of the priuiledge of the Parliament house, whereof the Conuocation house is a member, where al men in matters propounded maye frankelye speake their mindes. And here is present a gentleman of the Quenes maiesties, that was present at the disputation, and can testify that the questions which were there in controuersye, were not set foorthe by me, but by the Prolocutor, who required in the Quenes maiesties name al men to dispute their myndes freelye in the same, that were of the house,

The Quenes gentleman. Though the Parliament house bee a place of priuilege for men

of the house to speake, yet maye none speake, any treason against the Quene, nor maintain treason against the crowne.

Phil. But in any matter (which otherwyse were treason to speake of it) were it treason for any person to speake therein, specially the thing being proposed by the speaker? I thinke not.

The Quenes gentleman. You maye make the matter easy inough to you yet, as I perceyue, if you wyll reuoke the same, which you dydde there so stubburnly maintaine.

S, Asse. This man dyd not speake vnder reformation, as manye there dyd, but ??????????? & ???????????,  

Latin/Greek Translations     Close

Bishop of St. Asaph

Foxe text Greek

??????????? ... ???????????

Foxe text translation

earnestly ... perswasibly

phil. My Lordes, since you will not cesse to trouble me, for that I haue lawfully don, neither wil admyt my iuste defense, for that was spoken in the Parliament house by mee, contrary to the lawes and custome of the realme: I appeale to the whole Parliament house, to be iudged by the same, whether I ought thus to be molested for that I haue there spoken.

Rochest. But haue you not spoken and maintayned the same synce that tyme, or no?

Phil. If any man can charge me iustlye there with, here I stand to make answere.

Rochest. How saye you to it nowe? will you stand to that you haue spoken in the conuocation house? and do you thinke you saide then wel or no?

Phil. My Lord you are not mine Ordinarye to procede ex officio  

Commentary     Close

Officially, in his capacity as bishop.

S. Asse. What saye you now? is not there in the blessed sacrament of the aulter (and with that they put of al theire cappes for reuerence of that Idole) the presence of oure Sauioure Christ, really, & substancially, after the words of consecration?

Phil. I do beleue in the Sacrament of Christes body dulye ministred to be suche maner of presence, as the word teacheth me to beleue.

S. Asse. I praye you how is that?

Phil. As for that I wil declare an other time when I shalbe laufully called to dispute my mynd of this matter: but I am not yet driuen to that poynte. And the Scripture saieth: all thinges ought to be done after an order.

Another. b. This is a frowarde  

Commentary     Close

Perverse, refractory, ungovernable (OED).

Boner. It is not lawful for a man by the ciuil lawe to dispute his faith openly, as it appeareth in the title, de summa trinitate et fide catholica.  

Commentary     Close

Bonner had already cited this law in Philpot's fourth examination.

phil. My Lord, I haue answered you to thys question before.

Boner. Why? I neuer asked thee of this before nowe.