MarginaliaThe vaynglorious pride and ambition of the bish. of Winchester.vse great straungenes in countenaunce and chere to the person that is sent: ouer and besides, as smal comfort and counsell as may be in the matter, rather disswadyng and discouraging the person earnestlye to set forthward hys message, then boldening and comfortyng hym, as is hys duetie, with helpe and counsell to aduenture and do hys beste therin. MarginaliaWhat experience Doctor Boner hath of Winchesters pride.The experience wherof I haue had my self with hym, as well at Roane, the fyrst tyme I was sent to Rome, commaunded by the kinges highnes to come by hym, and at Marselles, the tyme of the intimation of the kinges protestation, prouocation, & appeale, as also lately going to Nice, touchyng the generall Counsell and the authoritie of the Byshop of Rome: and finally, now last of all, at my returne from Spayne, where neither my diligence in commyng to him & vsing him in the beginning with all the reuerence I could, neither the kinges letters written vnto him in my fauour, ne yet other thyng could mollifye hys hard hart, MarginaliaThe cankered malicious stomacke of Winchester.and cancred malicious stomacke, but that he would spitefullye speake, and vnkindely doe, as in dede he did, to his great shame and my dishonestie, as foloweth:

When riding in post I came to La Barella, a post a this side Lyons, the vij. day of August, he being in bedde there, I taryed till hee rysing vp and making him selfe readye, came at the last, out to me standyng and tariyng for him in a second chamber, and at his comming thether, he said: MarginaliaThe dialogue betwene Boner and Gardiner beginneth.what M. Boner, good morow. A Syr ye be welcome, and herewithal he put out his hand, and I kissing mine, toke him by it, and incontinētly after, he said: Come on, let vs goe and walke a while into the fieldes, and withall drew towardes the doore, preparing him to walke. To whom I said I would wayte vpon him. His going to þ^e fieldes (as appeared afterwardes) was not so much to walke, as to haue a place where he might speake loude, and triumphe alone against me, calling in his woordes again, if he spake any amisse, or vtterly denie thē, if that made for his purpose. And by chaunce, rather then by good wisedome, afore I went forth, I asked for M. Thirleby, and desired I might see him & speake with him. The Byshop that perceiuing, and withall that I slacke vpon it, hee commaūded one of his seruauntes to call M Thirleby, but yet afore his comming, the Bishop could not be idle, but said this to me:

M. Boner, your seruaunt was yesterday with me, & as I told him, I wil tel you. MarginaliaWinchester wil do nothing for Doctor Boner.In good faith, ye cā haue nothing of me. Nothing my lord (quoth I) merely speaking? mary God forbid, that is a heauie word, & much vncōfortable to him that wanteth all thinges, & trusteth much vpō your goodnes, þ^t hath a great deale. In faith (quoth he) ye shall haue nothing of me, marye ye shall haue of M. Thirleby, his cariage Mules, his bed, & diuerse other thinges, that he may spare, and whiche he hath kept for you. Well my Lord (quoth I) if I shal haue nothing of you, I must make as good shift as I cā for my self otherwise, & prouide it where I may get it. And here þ^e Bishop, MarginaliaDoctor Boner will geue no thankes to Winchester, for nothing.because I would not giue him thankes for that thing whiche was not worthy thankes, and that also I would not shewe my selfe greatly contented and pleased, thoughe I receiued nothing at his hādes, MarginaliaWinchester beginneth to kindle.he began somewhat to kindle, and asked what I wanted. I tolde him agayne, that I wanted all thing sauyng money and good will to serue the kinges highnes.

Tell me one thing (quoth he) that ye want. One thing quoth I? Mary, amongst many thinges that I want, I want napery. That shall ye not nede (quoth he) here in this countrey, and here he began to tell a long tale, that none vsed that, but M. Wallop and hee in the beginnyng: whiche is not true generally. And from this, he began to go, descendyng by his negatiues: MarginaliaWinchesters negatiues.my Mulettes (sayth he) ye can not haue, for if ye should, I must nedes prouide other for them agayne: my Mulet clothes ye can not haue, because mine armes are on them, not mete for you to beare: my rayment (I being a Bishop) that is not mete for you: and so proceding forth in the rest, nothyng had he for me, and nothing should I haue.

MarginaliaD. Thirleby present at thys parle.And here came M. Thirleby, who welcōmed me very gently and after an honest sorte: to whom the Bishop rehearseth agayn his negatiues & maketh a long discourse, bringyng in conclusion for all that he could do, that nothing I should haue of him, and this rehearsed he stil on end, I am sure aboue a dosen tymes, MarginaliaThe Pilates voyce of Winchester.and that with a Pylates voyce, so that all his companie standyng more then three or foure paire of butte lengthes of, heard him.

When I saw that he would make no end, but euer rehearsing one thing still, I said to him, my Lord, I besech you, seyng I shall haue nothing of you, but of M. Doctour here, let me giue hym thankes that deserueth it, and not trouble you therin no more, but leauing communication therin, let me desire and pray you, that we may common of the kings matters, and that I may haue therin knowledge aswell of the state therof, as also of your counsaile in that behalfe. MarginaliaStephen Gardiner more respectiue to his owne matters, then to the kyngs affayres.The Bishop was so hoate and warme in his owne matters, that hee would not heare, but nedes would returne agayne, and shewe why that I could haue nothing of him. My Lord (quoth I) here is still on end one tale, whiche me thinketh, seyng that I vnderstand it, ye nede not so oft to repete it, especially seyng that it commeth alwayes to this conclusion, that I shal haue nothing of you. MarginaliaYe lie, quoth Winchester.Ye lye (quoth he) I sayd not so. I reporte me (quoth I) to M. Thirleby here present, whom I shall desyre to beare recorde of your sadde and discrete honest behauiour with me. I say you lye (quoth he). My Lorde (quoth I) I thanke you.

MarginaliaWinchesters olde sophistication.I do not saye (quoth he) that ye shall haue nothing of me: but I saye, ye can haue nothing of me. And though the one here comprehendeth the other, yet there is a great diuersitie betwene these ij. maners of speakinges: I can spare nothing vnto you, and therfore ye shall haue nothing: and thoughe I can spare you, yet you shall haue nothing: for in the one is an honesty in the speaker, which would if he could do pleasure, & in the other, there lacketh that honestie.

My Lord (quoth I) to examine whether I shall haue nothing, because ye can spare nothing: or shall haue nothing, thoughe ye haue plentye, because ye will I shall haue nothing, it shall not much helpe me in my iourney. Wherfore, seyng ye bide vpon thys, that I shall haue nothing, I will thanke you for nothing, and prouide otherwise for my self. Toorde in your teethe (quoth he) and prouide as ye will. MarginaliaBishoplike spoken.Bishoplike spoken, by my faith (quoth I) and well it becommeth you to speake thus to me. Yea mary doth it becomme me (quoth he) and repetyng the wordes agayn, saied with a sharpe accent: MarginaliaThe mellifluous and hony mouthed wordes of Winchest. to Boner.haue nothing of me? torde in your teeth. Well my Lord (quoth I) this needeth not, sauing that ye haue a full stomacke agaynst me, and your witte abroade, willyng hereby to ease your stomacke. Yes marye (quoth he) it needeth for me, though it nedeth not for you, for I entend (quoth he) I woulde ye shoulde knowe it, to iustifye my selfe to the king in all thinges. If ye so do (quoth I) ye shall do the better. Nay (quoth he) I do it, & will do it. Well (quoth I) ye are the more to be commended, if ye so can do. Yes (quoth he) I can do it.

Nowe by my trouthe (quoth I) seynge the kinges highnes hath written so tenderlye for me vnto you, as appeareth by his highnes letters that his grace hath done: me thinketh, ye hauing so great plētie of al things, and I so great neede therof, cōming post as I do: ye go about as euil to iustifie your selfe to the king, as any one that I haue seen: And iwisse my Lorde (quoth I) I woulde haue reckened that, comming as I do come, I shoulde haue bene both better welcōme, and better entreated of you then nowe I am, euen and it had bene for no other respect, then because I am an English man.

MarginaliaThe stomacke of Stephen Gardiner agaynst Boner.I shall tel you (quoth he) for þ^e kinges sake, ye may loke to haue: but for your own sake ye get nothing. Wel (quoth I) then hauing nothing, I wil giue no thankes at all, & hauing any thing, I shall giue thankes to the king, and none to you. I tell you (quoth he) ye get nothing. And I tell you agayne (quoth I) that I wil not thanke you for nothing: and here his flesh of his cheeke began to swell and tremble, MarginaliaThe like trembling and leaping of his vaines and flesh for anger, & dyd M. Bucer also note in this Gardiner, disputyng with him in Germany.
Vid. Bucer. De. Cœlibatu.and he loked vpon me, as he woulde haue runne through me, and I came and stoode euen by hym and sayed: trowe you my Lorde (quoth I) that I feare your great lokes? Nay faith do I not. Ye had nede to get an other stomacke to whette vpō, then mine, and a better whetstone, then any ye haue. For I assure you, ye shall not whet me to your purpose: and if ye knewe how litle I do set by thys vnlouing and indiscrete behauiour of yours, ye would not vse it vpon me. And I shall tel you, (quoth I) if I were not bridled, and had other respects, both to the kynges hyghnes my souereigne Lorde, and also to other that may commaund me, I would haue told your ere this tyme, my mynde after an other sorte. Tell me, quoth he? toorde in your teeth. Well my Lord (quoth I) ye would, I perceyue by you and by your woordes, prouoke me to speake as vndiscretly and Marginalia* Steuen Gardiner Bedlemlike.* bedlemly, as ye do. But surely ye shal not, how soeuer ye shall speake. But this will I tell you, I shall shew how I am hādled of you. Mary spare not (quoth he). Well my Lord (quoth I) you haue here full wel playde þ^e part of a Bishop, & it is great ioy of you, that with this your furious anger &