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1565 [1565]

K. Edvvard. 6. Winchester inioyned to preach, and whereupon.
Marginalia1550.The Article.

Marginalia8. Article.
Winchest. inioyned by the kinges Counsell to preach the 2. yeare of the kinges reigne.
Item, that after the premisses, and for that those former admonitions and commaundementes notwithstandyng you did yet still shewe your selfe not conformable, and for that also others by your example were much animated, and thereby occasion of much vnquietnes ministred amongest the people: you were called before the Kynges Maiesties Counsayle in the moneth of Iune in the secōd yeare of his Maiesties reigne, and by them on his Maiesties behalfe commaunded to preach a Sermō before his Maiesty, and therin to declare the iustnes and godlynes of his Maiesties father in his procedyngs vppon certayne matters partly mencioned in certaine Articles to you deliuered in writyng, and partly otherwyse declared vnto you:MarginaliaCertayne poyntes inioyned to Winchest. to preach vpon.

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The effect wherof was touchyng the vsurped power and authoritie of the Byshop of Rome, that the same was iustly and godly taken away in this Realme, and other the Kynges Maiesties dominions: touchyng the iust suppressyng and takyng away of monasteries and religious houses: of pilgrimages, Reliques, Shrines, Images:

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The superstitious goyng about of S. Nicolas Byshop, S. Edmond, S. Katherine, S. Clement and such lyke: and iust takyng away of chauntries, obittes and Colledges: hallowyng of candles, water, ashes, Palme, holy bread, Beades: crepyng to the crosse, and such lyke.

Also, touching the settyng forth of the Kynges Maiesties authoritie in hys young yeares to be as great as if hys highnes were of many more yeares.

That Auricular confession is indifferent, and of no necessitie by the law of God: and touchyng the procession and common prayer in Englishe.

VVinchester.

MarginaliaAunswere to the 8. Article.This Article beyng of so many partes as it is, some true, some otherwise, must be aunswered by diuision of it into diuers members, to deuide the one frō þe other, grauntyng that is true, denying that is otherwise, and opening that is ambiguous, auoidyng that is captious, so as accordyng to my oth I may opē directly and plainly the truth with sinceritie of conscience. The motion of preachyng was made vnto me in my owne house by MarginaliaM. Cicill.M. Cicill vpon the Duke of Somersets behalf, after I had bene before the Coūsaile, as I haue before sayd: from which Counsaile I departed (as is before rehearsed) as no offender, and therfore when M. Cicill spake to mee of preachyng before the Kynges Maiestye with request to write my Sermon before, I denyed that maner of preachyng, bycause I sayd it was to preach lyke an offender, and I was none, but departed from the Coūsaile otherwise, as I haue before shewed. And the said M. Cicill did not say to me that I was moued to preach because I was not conformable: for I had at that tyme no maner of variance with the Counsaile, but was in all cōformitie with them for any thyng that I know, as I will aunswere afore God.

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As for euill example to any man, I could none geue, for I neuer offēded law, statute, or proclamatiō in this Realme, ne did euer any acte to the empayring of due obedience to þe Kyngs Maiestie in all my whole life, but by obseruation of them, and lettyng inuocations done asmuch as in me lay, to mainteine obedience.

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MarginaliaWinchest. refuseth to preach by other mens papers and prescriptions, and yet he afterward would prescribe other men by papers what they should preach agaynst all conscience and honestie.After M. Cicill had spoken to me of preachyng, and deliuered two papers conteinyng the matters whereupon I should entreat, because I refused to geue my Sermon in writyng (whiche was to me like an offender) or to read those papers of an other mans deuise as the conception and sincere maner of vtteryng of myne owne conscience (which me thought then and since yet a marueilous vnreasonable matter touchyng both my consciēce and honesty) I was then sent for to the Duke of Somersets graces chamber, and came in at a backe doore to him selfe alone, sauyng he tooke to him as witnes, he sayd, the Lord now of Wiltshyre then great Maister, and after many wordes, shewed me certaine Articles subscribed by Lawyers, what a Byshop might commaunde, and what the kyng might commaunde, and what payne to the disobeyer.

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MarginaliaWinchesters aunswere to the Duke of Somerset.To whom I sayd playnly and truly how those Lawyers subscription could not serue in this case to commaunde one to vtter to the people for myne owne deuise in wordes that is not in deede so: and if I might speake with these Lawyers (I sayd) hys grace should soone perceiue them to agree with me. My Lord sayd, I should speake with no man, and I should do as I was bydden, or do worse, and badde me aduise me till dinner was done. And then was I conueyed by the Lord great Maister to his chamber, and there left alone to dyne, as was in deede honorably prepared. But I tooke my selfe to be in the nature of a prisoner, and a restrayned man.

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MarginaliaSyr Thomas Smyth Secretary.And about ij. of the clocke at after noone came vnto me M. Thomas Smith then Secretary, vnto whom I complayned of the vnreasonablenes of the matter and shewed him certaine particularities, who sayd it was not ment so precisely, but to speake of the matters. To whom I sayd I was content to speake of the matters, and then if I speake not according to the truth of them, there should be enough to beare witnes to my condemnation, and if I spake the truth, then they had their desire. And I said further, I thought I might with my cōscience say so as men ought and should be content and satisfied. And further if I thought that in my maner of the vtteryng of those matters I should offend the Coūsaile, I had rather deny to speake of the thyng, and begyn the contention secretly with them, then to begyn with Pulpit, and so bryng my selfe in further trouble thē needed: and therfore if they would haue me preach, I would preach as of my selfe, and of these matters, so as I thought they should be content.

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Wherupō I was brought vp to my Lord of Somersets chamber, and there the matter ended thus, that my Lord of Somerset sayd hee would require no writyng of me but remit it to me, so I spake of the matters in the papers deliuered me by M. Cicil. I told him I would speake of them, sauyng for childrens toyes of goyng about of S. Nicolas and S. Clement. MarginaliaWinchester walketh here subtilly.If that bee now gone, quoth I, and forgotten, if I be to busy in rehearsall of them, they will say I comber their heades with ceremonies, and thys they will defame me: When ceremonies were plenty, they will say I did nothyng but preach on them, and now they be gone I bable of them still. I sayd I woulde touch the chiefe poyntes, addyng that I would speake of other matters also, and with that, beyng put to my libertie to choose the day, departed: and otherwise I was not spokē with concernyng preachyng, sauyng after M. Cicill came vnto me, wherof I shall speake anone.

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As cōcerning þe matters to be spokē of, all such thyngs as be here rehearsed bee named in þe papers deliuered vnto me, although not altogether after this sort: sauing þe setting foorth of þe Kinges Maiesties authoritie in hys minoritie, whereof there is no worde in those papers nor there was neuer any promise made of me to speake of it. Truth it is that after I had signified the day when I would preach, M. Cicill came vnto me makyng the chief message to know the day when I would preach: to whom I had sent worde before that it should bee S. Peters day, because me thought the Gospel serued wel for that purpose, & in processe of communicatiō he told me that he lyked gayly well a worde that I had sayd in an other communication, MarginaliaWinchesters opinion of the kinges minoritie.how a kyng was asmuch a kyng at one yeare of age, as at one hundreth yeares of age, and if I touched it, he thought it would be well taken. I told him againe, euery man knew that, and then opened of my selfe the matter further.

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MarginaliaM. Cicills repayre agayne to Winchester.And at hys next repayre vnto me, which was the Monday before I preached, the sayd M. Cicill brought me papers of the Kyngs Maiesties hand, shewyng me how his highnes vsed to note euery notable sentence, and specially if it touched a kyng: and therfore (quoth he) if ye speake of a king, ye must ioyne Counsayl withall. Wherunto I made no aunswere, but shifted to other

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