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1566 [1566]

K. Edward. 6. Articles layd to VVinchester with hys aunsweres to the same.

MarginaliaAn. 1550.
Winchester maketh daungerous speaking of the kyng, to ioyne Counsaile withall.
matter without makyng him any promise or deniall, because I woulde neither binde my selfe nor trouble my selfe to discusse that matter. For albeit it is godly and wisely done of euery Prince to vse counsell, yet speakyng of a kynges power by Scripture, I can not by expresse Scripture limite the kynges power by coūsayle. And hearing blindly by reporte some secrete matter that I will not speake of here, I thought not to meddle with it in the Pulpit: & yet to the effect to haue our soueraigne Lorde now obeyed, of which mynde I was euer, I pointed to our soueraigne Lord there in presence, and sayd he was onely to bee obeyed, and I would haue but one kyng, & other wordes to that purpose. But for any promise to bee made by me, I vtterly deny it and tell plainly the cause why I spake not otherwise of it. There was also in the papers deliuered vnto me occasion geuen me to speake of the Masse, because of Masses satisfactory, as some vnderstand them. And also there was occasion to speake of the Sacrament of the altar, because of the proclamatiō passed of the same, which to be true I shall iustifie by the sayd papers.

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Article.

Marginalia9. Article.Item, that you receauyng the same and promising to declare the same in a Sermon by you made before his Maiestie for that purpose on the feast of S. Peter in the sayd second yeare of his hyghnes reigne, did then & there contemptuously and disobediently omitte to declare and set forth many of the sayd matters, and of diuers others of the sayd Articles, you spake and vttered your mynde in such doubtfull sort, as the iustnes and godlynes of his Maiesties fathers and his procedyngs was not set forth accordyng to the commaundement geuen vnto you and your owne promise, to the great offence of the hearers and manifest contempt of hys Maiestie & daūgerous example of others.

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VVinchester.

MarginaliaAunswere to the 9. Article.Touching the promise, I aunswere as afore: and as touchyng the omission of that I should haue spoken of, by contempt or disobedience, I aunswere by myne oth: MarginaliaOmission by contempt.I did not omit any thyng (if I did omitte it) by contempt or disobedience: For I euer minded to satisife that promise, to speake of all matters in those papers according to my former declaration. And if I did percase omitte any thyng (wherof I can make now no assuraunce beyng two yeares and a halfe past sithens I preached) but if I dyd omitte any thing, who knew my trauaile in that matter would not maruail, being troubled with a letter sent from the Duke of Somerset, whereof I shall speake after. So as frō 4. of the clocke on Thursday, tyll I had done my sermon on the Friday, I dyd neyther drincke, eate, ne sleepe. So carefull was I to passe ouer that trauayle of preaching, without al sclaūder of the truth, with satisifaction of my promise, and discharge of my duety to God and the kinges most excellent Maiestye. Wherein, whether any thing were omitted or not, I could haue aunswered more precisely then I can nowe, if according to my most instant sute and þe sute of my seruantes, the matter had ben heard whyle it was in fresh memory. But because omission may be by infirmitye of nature, in which obliuion is a payne of our originall sinne, in which case it is no mortall offence, if a man being put in remembraunce wyll purge it: I therefore according to the true testimonye of myne own conscience, dare the more boldly deny all contempt and disobedience, hauing for my declaration a generall sentence spoken in my sermon, MarginaliaWinchesters distinction betwene the vpper part and the lower part of the Lawes.that I agreed wyth the vpper part in theyr lawes, orders, and commaundements, or such like wordes, and founde onely fault in the lower part. By whiche sentence appeared, howe I allowed in the whole that was past thetherto, and onely dissented from the doinges of them that attempt innouations of their own presumption.

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MarginaliaOmission excused by a distinction.And furthermore I say, that that saying [omission] here obiected vnto me, if it were true, as I know it not to be, may happen two wayes: one way by infirmitye of nature, an other way of purpose. Charity of a chri-sten man permitteth not to determine the worst of that is doubtfull and ambiguous to both parties, as touching doubtfulnes obiected. I take God to record I minded to speake simply, and to be on the kinges maiesties side onely, and not go inuisible in the world, wyth ambiguities esteeming hym. & c. MarginaliaA locke of wordes, that is, to open and shutte agayne as the liste.The worst man of all is, that wyll make hym selfe a locke of wordes and speech, which is knowen not to be my faction, nor I think this life worth that dissimulation: and how can that bee a doubtfull speech in him, that professeth to agree wyth the kings lawes, iniunctions and statutes, which I did expresly. There be that call a doubt, what so euer serueth not theyr appetite. It is not in the speaker to satisfie the hearer that wyll doubt where doubt is not. The summe of my teaching was, that al visible things bee ordered to serue vs, whych we may in conuenient seruice vse. And when we serue them, that is an abuse, and may then at the Rulers pleasure, vnlesse scripture appoynteth a speciall vse of them, bee corrected in the vse, or taken away for reformation. And this is a plain teaching that hath no doubt in it, but an yea and a nay on two sides, without a meane to make a doubt. And if any that doubteth commeth vnto me, I wyll resolue hym the doubt as I can. MarginaliaAunswere by wordes to o in deedes.And if I promised to speake playnly or am cōmaunded to speake plainly & can not: then is my fault to promise onely in þe nature of folly & ignorance, wherunto I resort, not for a shift, wherof in deede I professe the knowledge, but to shew how somtime to my hinderāce I am noted learned that cā speake playnly & yet speake doubtfully, other whyles am reiected as one that vnderstādeth not þe matter at al. As touching contempt, there cā be none manifest þt procedeth of a priuy promise, if I had brokē it, as I intended not, but intended to take it, as appeareth by my generall sentence, to agree wyth the Superiours, and onely find fault in the inferiour Subiectes, who dayly transgresseth the kinges Maiesties proclamations an dother, whereof I spake then.

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The Article.

Marginalia10. Article.Item that you being also commaunded on his Maiesties behalfe, for the auoyding of tumult, and for other great considerations inhibited to treate of any matter in controuersie concerning the Masse or the Communion, then commonly called the Sacrament of the aulter, dyd contrary to the sayd commaundement and inhibition, declare diuers your iudgements and opinions in the same, in the manifest contempt of hys highnes said inhibitiō, to the great offence of the hearers and disturbance of common quiet and vnitie of the Realme.

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VVinchester.

MarginaliaAunswere to the 10. Article.To the 10. article þe sayd bishop aunswered, that the Wedensday at after noone nexte before the Friday when I preached, MarginaliaM. Cicill.Maister Cicill came to me, and hauing in all hys other accesses spoken no word thereof, dyd thē vtter and aduise me from the Duke of Somerset, that I should not speake of the Sacramēt or of the Masse, whereby he sayd I should auoyde trouble. And when he saw me not take it well: I meane (quoth he) doubtfull matters. I asked hym what? He said, transubstantiation. I told hym he wyst not what transubstantiation ment. MarginaliaWinchesters catholicke fayth in the Sa-ment.I wyll preach (quoth I) the very presence of Christes most precious bodye and bloud in the Sacrament, which is the catholicke fayth, and no doubtfull matter, ne yet in controuersie, sauing that certayne vnlearned speake of it, they wot not what. And among the matters quoth I, whereof I haue promised to speake, I must by speciall wordes speake of the Sacrament and the Masse also. And when I shal so speake of them, I wyll not forbeare to vtter my faith and true beliefe therein, which I thinke necessary for the kinges Maiestye to knowe: and therefore if I wyst to be hanged when I came downe, I woulde speake it. MarginaliaWinchest. woulde nedes talke of the Sacrament and of the Masse.Whych playne zeale of my conscience, grounded vpon Gods commaundement to do hys message truly, I would not hide, but vtter so as my Lord shoulde, if he woulde not haue it spoken of, nor let me to come there, as he might

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