MarginaliaAn 1555. Iune.and God hath done hys part vnto thee. I woulde bee glad to do thee good. Thou knowest that I am thy Pastor, and one that should aunswer for thee. If I would not teach thee well, I should aunswer for thy soule.
Haukes. That I haue sayd, I wyll stand to it God willing: there is no way to remoue it.
Boner. Nay, nay Haukes, thou shalt not be so wylfull. Remember Christ bad two go into his vineyard: the one sayd he would and went not, the other sayd he would not and went.
See Matthew 21: 28-30.
Haukes. The last went.
Boner. Do thou lykewyse, and I wyll talke friendly with thee: how sayest thou? It is in the sixt of S. Iohn: MarginaliaBoner entreth talke of the Sacrament.I am the bread of life: and the bread that I wyll geue, is my flesh, which I wyll geue for the lyfe of the world. And who soeuer eateth my flesh, and drinketh my bloud, hath euerlasting lyfe. My flesh is very meat in deede, and my bloud is very drinke in deede. And he that eateth my flesh, & drynketh my bloud, dwelleth in me, and I in hym. Do ye beleue thys?
[Back to Top]Haukes. Yea, I must needes beleue the scriptures.
Boner. Why? then I trust that ye be sounde in the blessed Sacrament.
Haukes. I besech your lordship to feele my consciēce no farther thē in that, that I was accused in vnto you.
Boner. Well, well, let vs go vnto Euensong.
Haukes. With that I turned my backe to go out of the Chappell.
Boner. Why, wyll ye not tary Euensong?
Haukes. No forsooth.
Boner. And why?
MarginaliaTho. Haukes refuseth to heare Boners euensong.Haukes. For I wyll not.
Boner. And why wyll you not?
Haukes. For because I haue no edifying thereby, for I vnderstand no latin.
Boner. Why? you may pray by your selfe. What bookes haue ye?
Haukes. I haue the new Testament, the bookes of Salomon,
I.e., Proverbs, the Song of Solomon, Ecclesiastes and possibly the Wisdom of Solomon.
Boner. Why, I pray you tary here, and pray you on your Psalter.
Haukes. I wyll not pray in this place, nor in none such. Then said one of hys Chaplains: let him go my Lord, & he shall be no partaker with vs in our praiers.
Haukes. I thinke my selfe best at ease when I am farthest from you: And so the Bishop went to Euensong, and I came downe and walked betwene the hall and the Chappell in the court, & taryed there till Euensong was done, and within an houre after that Euensong was done, MarginaliaTho. Haukes called for agayne by Boner.the Bishop sent for me into his Chamber where he lay him selfe, and when I came, there was he, and three of hys Chaplens.
[Back to Top]Boner. Ye know of the talke that was betwene you and me, as concerning the Sacramēt. You would not haue your conscience sought any farther, then in that ye were accused of.
Haukes. I thought ye would not be both myne accuser and Iudge.
Boner. Well, ye shall aunswer me to the sacrament of the aultar, the sacrament of Baptisme, the sacramēt of Penaunce, and to the sacrament of Matrimony.
Haukes. There is none of these, but I dare speake my conscience in them.
Boner. The sacrament of the aultar ye seeme to be sound in.
Haukes. In the sacrament of the aultar? MarginaliaTho. Haukes. knoweth no Sacrament of the aultar.why Syr, I do not know it.
Boner. Well, we wyll make you to know it, and to beleue in it too, ere euer we haue done with you.
Haukes. No, that shall ye neuer do.
Boner. Yes, a fagot wyll make you do it.
I.e., Bonner will make Haukes do it by the threat of burning him.
Haukes. No, no, a point for your fagot. What God thinketh meete to be done, that shall ye doe, and more shall ye not doe.
Boner. Doe ye not beleue that there remayneth in
the blessed sacrament of the aultar after the wordes of consecration be spoken, MarginaliaThe matter and substance of the Sacrament.no more bread, but the very body & bloud of Christ? and at that word he put of his cap.
Haukes. I do beleue as Christ hath taught me.
Boner. Why? did not Christ say: Take, eate, this is my body?
Haukes. Christ sayd so: but therefore it followeth not, that the Sacrament of the aultar is so as you teach, neyther dyd Christ euer teach it so to bee.
Boner. Why? the Catholike Church taught it so, & they were of Christes Church.
Haukes. Howe proue ye it? The Apostles neuer taught it so. Reade the Actes, the second, and the twenty. Neyther Peter nor Paule euer taught it, neyther instituted it so.
Boner. Ah Syr? ye wyll haue no more then the scripture teacheth, but euen as Christ hath left it bare.
MarginaliaTouchyng the necessary pointes of doctrine and Sacramentes, only the word is to be folowed.Haukes. He that teacheth me any otherwyse, I will not beleue him.
Boner. Why, than ye must eate a Lambe, if ye wyll haue but Christes institution onely.
Bonner is observing that if Haukes is to follow Christ's instructions about the Last Supper literally, then Haukes should prepare a Passover supper.
Haukes. Nay that is not so. Before that Christ did institute the sacrament, that ceremony ceased, and then began the sacrament.
Boner. Alas, you know not how it begonne, neither of the institution thereof.
Haukes. Then I would be glad to learne.
Boner. Mary, we will teach you: but ye are so stubborne that ye will not learne.
Haukes. Except ye learne me by the word of God, I will neuer credite you nor beleue you: and thus wee concluded. Then the Byshop and his Chaplaynes laughed, and sayd: Iesu, Iesu, what a stubbornes and arrogantnes is this? & this was in his chamber where he lay? Then sayd the Byshop to me, go ye downe and drinke, for it is fasting day: it is midsommer euen, MarginaliaA false conceaued opinion of Boner agaynst the Protestantes.but I thinke ye loue neither fasting nor praying.
[Back to Top]Haukes. I will neuer deny fasting neyther praying,MarginaliaFasting & praying no man denieth. so that it be done as it ought to be done, and without hipocrisy or vayne glory.
Boner. I like you the better for that: & so we left for that night.
The next day the byshop went to London: for Fecknam was made Deane that day, and I taryed styll at Fulham. Thē did the Byshops men desire me to come to Masse, but I did vtterly refuse it, aunswering them as I did their Maister. MarginaliaBoner returneth from London.That night the Byshop came home to Fullam agayne.
[Back to Top]THen vpon the Monday morning very earely the bishop did call for me. MarginaliaTalke betwene Thomas Haukes, & Harpsfield.There was with him Harpsfield Archdeacon of Londō, to whom the Bishop said: this is the man that I told you of, who would not haue his childe christened, nor will haue any ceremonies.
Harps. Christ vsed ceremonies. Did he not take clay from the ground, and tooke spettle, and made the blind man to see?
John 9: 6-7.
Haukes. I wotte well that, but Christ did neuer vse it in baptisme. If ye will needes haue it, put it to the vse that Christ put it vnto.
Harps. I admit your childe dye vnchristened: what a heauy case stand you in?
Haukes. I admit that if it do, what than?
Harps. Mary then are ye damned, and your childe both.
MarginaliaThe state of children dying without baptisme.Haukes. Iudge you no farther then yee may by the scriptures.
Harps. Do ye not know that your childe is borne in originall sinne?
Haukes. Yes that I do.
Harps. How is originall sinne washed away?
Haukes. By true faith and beliefe in Christ Iesus.
Harps. How can your child being an infant, beleue.
Haukes The deliueraunce of it from sinne, standeth