Marginalia1555. Iune.of myne own. And I sayd, I do neither intend to bribe neither to steale, God wylling. Then he dyd wryte my warrant to the Keeper of the Gatehouse at Westminster, and deliuered it to Harpsfield, who with his own man and one of the bishops men brought me to prysō, and MarginaliaHaukes sent to the Gatehouse at Westminster with the Bishops warrant.deliuered the warant and me both to the Keeper: and this was contayned in the warrant:
[Back to Top]MarginaliaThe Bishops warrant.I wyll and commaund you, that you receaue hym who commeth named in this warrant, and that he bee kept as a safe prysoner, and that no man speake wyth him, and that ye delyuer him to no man, except it be to the Councel, or to a Iustice: For he is a Sacramentarie, and one that speaketh agaynst Baptisme, a sedicious man, a perilous man to be abroade in these perilous dayes.
[Back to Top]And thus was I receiued, and they departed. And there I remayned. xiij. dayes, and then the bishop sent two of hys men vnto me,MarginaliaThe Bishops men sent to Haukes in the Gatehouse. saying: My Lord would be glad to know how ye do. I aunswered them, I do like a poore prisoner. They sayd: My Lord would knowe whether ye be the same man that ye were when ye departed? I sayd I am no chaungeling. They sayde, my Lord would be glad that ye should do well. I sayd: If my Lorde wyll me any good, I pray you to desire hym to suffer my friendes to come to me. So they sayd they would speake for me, but I heard no more of them.
[Back to Top]This is the first examination of me Tho. Haukes, being examined by Edmund Boner, then bishop of London, and by his Chaplens and Doctors at Fulham. iiij. myles from London, where I lay tyll I came to prison to Westminster: and after his two men had bene with me, I heard no more of him, tyl the thyrd daye of September.
In the Rerum (p. 460) the date is given as 30 September, while it is given as 3 September in all editions of the Acts and Monuments. For once the date in the Rerum is correct; it is confirmed by the manuscript versions of Haukes's examinations (BL, Lansdowne 389, fos. 75r and 180v). The date of 3 September was probably a printer's error in the 1563 edition which was repeated in subsequent editions.
[Back to Top]In the Rerum (p. 460) the date is given as 30 September, while it is given as 3 September in all editions of the Acts and Monuments. For once the date in the Rerum is correct; it is confirmed by the manuscript versions of Haukes's examinations (BL, Lansdowne 389, fos. 75r and 180v). The date of 3 September was probably a printer's error in the 1563 edition which was repeated in subsequent editions.
[Back to Top]MarginaliaThe secōd tyme of Haukes examination.THe Byshop of Wynchester, then being Chauncellour, preached that day at Paules crosse, and the Byshop of London sayd to my keper, I thinke your man will not go to the MarginaliaOf this sermon of Winchest. read before pag. 1651.sermon to day.
Haukes. Yes my Lord, I pray you let me go: and that that is good I will receiue, and the rest I wil leaue behynd me, and so I went. And when the sermon was done, I and my keeper came to the Byshops house, and there we remayned till dynner was done: and after dinner the byshop called for me, and asked me if I were the same man that I was before.
[Back to Top]Haukes. I am no chaungling, neyther none wyll be.
Boner. Ye shall find me no chaungling neither. And so he returned into his chamber, and there he did write the syde of a sheete of paper, and all that whyle I stoode in the great chamber, and as many with mee as might well stand in the chamber. And as I stoode, MarginaliaD. Smith cōmeth to Haukes.D. Smyth came vnto me (who once recanted, as it appeareth in print) saying that he would be glad to talke brotherly with me. I asked him what he was. Then sayd they that stoode by, he is Doctour Smith. Then said I: are you he that did recant? And he sayd, it was no recantation, but a declaration.
[Back to Top]Haukes. Ye were best to terme it well, for your own honesty.
MarginaliaDoctour Smithes recantatiō.D. Smyth. Shall I terme it as it pleaseth you?
Haukes. To be short with you, I wil know whether ye will recant any more or no, before that I talke with you, credite you or beleue you: and so I departed from him to the other syde of the chamber. Then sayd the Byshops men and his Chaplaines, that my Lord commaunded me to talke with him. Then they that stoode by, cryed with a great noyse: hang him, burne him: it is pity that he liueth, that disobeyeth my Lordes commaundement.
[Back to Top]Then sayd one Myles Huggard: MarginaliaMiles Huggardes wordes to Tho. Haukes.where proue you that infantes were baptised?
Haukes. Go teach all Nations, baptising them in the name of the father, and of the sonne, and of the holy ghost. Sir here is none excepted.
MarginaliaMiles Huggard.M. Hug. What? shall we go teach children?
Haukes. That woord doth trouble you: it might be left out full well: it is to much for you to teach. Is not your name Myles Huggard?
M. Hug. So am I called.
Haukes. Be you not a Hosier, and dwel in Pudding lane?
It was very unusual for a lay person, much less an artisan, to be involved in the interrogation of a heretic. This is a significant indication of Hogarde's status as a polemicist and propagandist.
M. Hug. Yes that I am and there I do dwell.
Haukes. It would seeme so: MarginaliaHuggard more meete to eate a pudding, then to dispute of scripture.for ye can better skyll to eat a pudding and make a hose, then in scripture either to aunswere, or to oppose.
Haukes is probably quoting a derisory rhyme which the protestants were circulating about Hogarde.
Haukes. Are not ye the parson of Hornchurch?
Parson. Yes that I am.
Haukes. Did yee not set such a Priest in your benefice?
I.e., as a necessity.
Haukes. Like will to like: such maister, such man. For I know that priest to be a very vile man, as any could be. I asked the parson MarginaliaParson of Hornchurch compared to the wether cocke of Paules.what kinne he was to the weather Cocke of Paules? and he fell in a great laughter, wyth the rest of his companions. Hee sayd that I did rayle.
[Back to Top]Then sayd an other that stoode by vnto mee: what booke haue you here? I answered, the new Testament. May I loke in it, sayd he? Yea that ye may sayd I. And so he looked in my booke, and sayd it was corrupt. I answered hym: if the thinges contained in it be true, then are ye all false Prophetes. Hee sayd that he would appose me in the first word of þe Testament, saying: MarginaliaFriuolous questions.here is a generation of Christ. And Esay saith, no man can tell hys generation.MarginaliaEsay. 53.
[Back to Top]Haukes. What meaneth Esay by that?
I woulde learne of you (sayd he.)
Haukes. Yee would bee angry if the scholler should learne the maister: but if ye will haue me to teach you, I will tell you Esaias meaning.
Then sayd he, no man can tell the generation betwene the father and the sonne: but you (I dare say) did know it before.
Haukes. Why then Esay denyeth not the generatiō.
Then sayd he, why is Christ called Christ?
Haukes. Because he is a Messias.
Then said he, why is he called a Messias?
Haukes. Because he was so Prophecied by the Prophetes.
Then sayd he: why is your booke called a booke?
Haukes. These woordes doe breed more strife, then godly edifying.
Beware sayd hee, that ye do not declyne from the church: for if ye do, you will proue your selfe an hereticke.
Haukes. Euen as ye do call vs heritickes, that doo enclyne to Christes church, from your Church: so are ye all false Prophetes, that do decline from Christes church, to your owne church. MarginaliaDifference betwene the true Prophets and the false. MarginaliaThe false prophets say: thus saith the Church. The true Prophets say: thus sayth the Lord.And by this shall all men know you to be false Prophetes, if ye say, this sayth the church, and will not say, this saith our Lord. And so he went his way, as though he had a flea in his eare.
[Back to Top]Then came an other and sayd vnto me, hee would talke with me, for he perceiued (as he sayd) that I was angry and out of patience.
Haukes. I will see your commission or euer I talke with you or with any man more. For I wist not how to be ryd of them: they came so thick about me. For I