Marginalia1555. Iuly.and therefore reproued it not, nor gaue mee any tyme to deliberate.
L. Chaū. Why? dyddest thou not deny Christes presence in the sacrament?
Brad. No, I neuer denyed nor taught, but that to fayth whole Christ, body and bloud was as present as bread and wyne to the due receauer.
L. Chaun. Yea, but doest thou not beleue that Christes body naturally & really is there, vnder the formes of bread and wyne?
Brad. My Lord, I beleue Christ is present there to the fayth of the due receauer: as for transubstantiatiō I plainly and flatly tell you, I beleue it not.
Here was Bradford called MarginaliaBlessed are you when they shall reuile you, and speake all that naught is agaynst you for my names sake. Math. 5.Diabolus, a sclaūderer, for we aske no question (quoth my Lord Chaūcellour) of transubstantiation, but of Christes presence.
Brad. I deny not his presence to the faith of the Receauer, but deny that hee is included in the bread, or that the bread is transubstantiate.
B. Worcester. If he be not included, how is he then present?
Brad. Forsooth though my fayth can tell how, yet my toung can not expresse it, nor you, otherwise then by fayth heare it, or vnderstand it.
Here was much ado, now one Doctor standyng vp and speaking thus, and others speaking that, and the L. Chauncellour talking much of Luther, Zuinglius, Oecolampadius: but styll Bradford kept him at this point, MarginaliaChristes body present to fayth.that Christ is present to faith: and that MarginaliaTransubstantiation denied.there is no transubstantiation nor including of Christ in the bread: but all this would not serue them.
[Back to Top]Therefore an other bishop asked this question, whether the wicked mā receiued Christes very body or no? And Bradford aunswered plainly MarginaliaThe wicked receiue not the body of Christ.no. Whereat the Lord Chauncellour made a long Oration, how that it could not be that Christ was present, except that the euyll man receaued it. But Bradford put away all hys Oration in few wordes, that grace was at that present offered to his lordship, although he receaued it not: So that (quoth he) MarginaliaReceauing maketh not the presēce of the body, but Grace.the receauing maketh not the presence, as your lordship would inferre, but Gods grace, truth, and power is the cause of the presence, which grace the wycked that lacke fayth can not receiue. And here Bradford prayed my Lord, MarginaliaThe Popes Church diuorceth that the Lord in the Sacramēt hath coupled.not to diuorce that which God had coupled together. He hath coupled all these together: Take, eate, this is my body: he sayth not: See, peepe, this is my body: but take, eate. So that it appeareth, this is a promise depēding vpon condition, if we take and eate.
[Back to Top]L. Chaun. Here the L. Chauncellour and the other Bishops made a great ado, that Bradford had founde out a toy that no mā els euer did, of the condition, and the Lord Chauncellour made many wordes to the people therabout.
Brad. But Bradford sayd thus: MarginaliaThe Sacrament both a cōmaundement and a promise, and how?My Lord, are not these wordes, Take, eate, a commaundement? And are not these woordes: This is my body, a promise? If you wyll challenge the promise, and doe not the commaundement, may you not deceiue your selfe?
L. Chaun. Here the L. Chauncelor denyed Christ to haue commaunded the Sacrament, and the vse of it.
MarginaliaBradford teacheth Winchest. his grammer.Brad. Why, my Lord I praye you, tell the people, what moode Accipite, Manducate is: Is it not plaine to children, that Christ in so saying commaundeth?
L. Chaun. At these wordes the Lord Chauncellour made a great toying & trifling at the imperatiue moode and fel to paresing or examining, as he should teach a child: MarginaliaWinchest. denyeth these wordes: Take, eate, to be a cōmaundement.& so concluded that it was no cōmaundement: but such a phrase as this, I pray you geue me drinke, which (quoth he) is no commaundement I trow.
[Back to Top]Brad. But Bradford praied him to leaue toying and trifling, and sayd thus: My Lorde, if it be not a commaundement of Christ to take and eate the Sacramēt, why dare any take vpon them to commaund and make that of necessitie, which God leaueth free? as you do
in making it a necessary cōmaundement, once a yeare for all that be of discretion to receaue the sacrament.
L. Chaun. Here the L. Chauncellor called him again *Marginalia* Diabolus, is as much to say in Greke, as a sclaunderer, or cauiler. Diabolus or Calumniator, and began out of these wordes: Let a man proue him self, and so eate of the bread, (yea bread, quoth Bradford) and drinke of the cup, to proue that it was no cōmaundement to receaue the sacramēt. For then (quoth he) if it were a cōmaundemēt, it should bynde all men in all places, and at all tymes.
[Back to Top]Brad. Oh my Lord, MarginaliaDistinction betwene commaūdemen.s.discerne betwene commaundements: some be so generall, as the ten commaundements, that they bynd alwaies, in all places, and al persons: some be not so general: as is this of the Supper, the sacrament of Baptisme, of the thrise appearing before the Lord yearely at Ierusalem, of Abraham offeryng Isaac. &c.
[Back to Top]Here my Lord Chauncellour denied the cuppe to be cōmaunded of Christ, for then (quoth he) we should haue eleuen commaundementes.
Brad. In deede I thinke you thinke asyou speake, for els would you not take the cup from the people, in that Christ sayth: Drinke ye of it all. But how say you my Lordes, Christ sayth to you bishops especially: Ite prædicate Euangeliū. i.
Ite praedicate Euangelium.
Go and preach the Gospell.
et dixit eis euntes in mundum universum praedicate evangelium omni creaturae.
[Accurate citation, although participleeuntesturned into imperativeite]
MarginaliaWinchester in a chafe.L. Chaun. Here was my L. Chauncellor in a chafe, and sayd as pleased him.
Duresme. An other, the bishop of Duresme I weene, asked Bradford MarginaliaB. Tonstalls question.when Christ began to bee present in the Sacrament? whether before the receauer receaued it, or no?
Brad. Bradford aunswered, that the question was curious and not necessary: and further said, that MarginaliaAs the cup is the testament: so bread is the body.as the cup was the new Testamēt, so the bread was Christes body to hym that receaueth it duly, but yet so that the bread is bread. For (quoth he) in all the Scripture, you shall not finde this propositiō, Non est panis, there is no bread. And so he brought forth Chrysostome: MarginaliaChrysost. in Mat. Hom. 83.Si in corpore essemus.
Si in corpore essemus. Not translated. If we were to be in the body. [In Greek - cf. TLG]
L. Chaun. This fellow is now in an other heresy of fatall necessity, as though all thinges were so tied together, that of mere necessitie all must come to passe.
Brad. But Bradford prayed hym to take thinges as they be spoken, and not wrast them into a contrary sence. Your Lordship (quoth hee) doth discerne betwixt God and man. MarginaliaTo God nothing is by fortune: to man it may seme sometimes so to be.Thinges are not by Fortune to God at any tyme, though to man they seeme so some times. I speake but as the Apostles sayd: Lord (quoth they) see how Herode and Pontius Pilate, with the Prelats are gathered together against thy Christ, to do that which thy hand and counsell hath before ordayned for them to do.MarginaliaAct. 4.
[Back to Top]L. Chaun. Here began the L. Chauncellor to read the excommunication.MarginaliaWinchester readeth the Sentence of curse agaynst M. Bradford. And in the excommunication, when he came to the name of Iohn Bradford Laicus, lay man: why (quoth he) art thou no Priest?
Bardford. No, nor neuer was, either Priest, either beneficed, eyther maried, either any Preacher, afore publike authority had established religion, or Preacher after publicke authoritie had altered religion, and yet I am thus handled at your handes: but God, I doubt not, will geue hys blessing where you curse. And so he fell down on his knees, and hartely thanked God, that he counted him worthy to suffer for his sake. And so praying God to geue him repentance, & a good mynde, after the excōmunication was read, MarginaliaM. Bradford deliuered to the Shriefe.he was deliuered to the Shrieffe of London, and so had to the Clincke, and after MarginaliaM. Bradford sent to the Counter in the poultrie.to the Counter in the Poultry in the same city of London, this beyng then purposed of his murtherers, that he should be deliuered from thence to the Earle of Darby, to be conueyed into Lankashiere, and there to be burned in the towne of Manchester, where
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