MarginaliaAn. 1555. Iuly.substantiation: the other, that the wicked do not receiue Christes body.

Alphon. Let vs looke a litle on the first. Do you not beleue that Christ is present really, and corporally in the forme of bread?

Brad. No, I do beleue that MarginaliaChrist present to the fayth of the worthy receauer.Christ is present to the faith of the worthy receiuer, as there is present bread and wyne to the senses and outward man: as for any such presence of includyng and placyng Christ, I beleue not, nor dare beleue.

Alphon. I am sure you beleue Christes naturall body is circumscriptible. And here he made much a do of the two natures of Christ, how that the one is euery where, and the other is in his proper place, demaunding such questions, as no wise man would haue spent any tyme about. At length, because the Frier had forgotten to conclude, Bradford put him in minde of it, and thus then at length he concluded: MarginaliaA Spanish Argument. Christes body is circumscriptible in heauē: Ergo Christes body is circumscriptible in the bread.how that because Christes body was circumscriptible concerning the humane nature in heauen, therfore it was so in the bread.

Brad. How hangeth this together? Euen as if you should say: because you are here, Ergo it must nedes folow that you are at Rome. For this you reasō: Because Christes body is in heauen, Ergo it is in the Sacramēt vnder the forme of bread: which no wise man will graunt.

Alphon. Why, will you beleue nothyng, but that which is expressely spoken in the Scriptures?

Brad. Yes Syr, I will beleue what soeuer you shall by demonstratiō out of the Scripture declare vnto me.

Alphon. He is obstinate, quoth Alphonsus to his felow: and then turnyng to Bradford sayd, MarginaliaChrist is able to do it: Ergo he doth it.is not God able to do it?

Brad. Yes, but here the question is of Gods wil, and not of his power.

Alphon. Why? doth he not say playnly, this is my body?

Brad. Yes, and I deny not but that it is so, to the faith of the worthy receiuer.

Alphon. To the faith? how is that?

Brad. Forsoth Syr as I haue no tounge to expresse it: so I know ye haue no eares to heare and vnderstand it. For faith is more then man can vtter.

Alphon. But I can tell all that I beleue.

Brad. You beleue not much then. For if you beleue the ioyes of heauen, and beleue no more therof then you can tell, you will not yet desire to come thether. For as the minde is more capable and receiuable then the mouth: so it conceiueth more then toung can expresse.

Alphon. Christ saith MarginaliaHoc est corpus meum.it is his body.

Brad. And so say I, MarginaliaQuodā modo.after a certaine maner.

Alphon. After a certaine maner? that is, after an other maner then it is in heauen.

Brad. S. Augustine telleth it more playnly,MarginaliaAugustinus Epistola ad Bonifacium. that it is Christes body after the same maner as Circumcision was the couenaunt of God, and the Sacrament of faith is faith: or, to make it more playne, as Baptisme and the water of Baptisme is regeneration.

Alphon. Very well said. Baptisme and the water therof is a Sacrament of Gods grace and spirite in the water clensing the Baptised.

Brad. No Syr, away with your enclosing but this I graunt, MarginaliaArgument. As grace is in the water of baptisme so is the body in the Sacrament. But grace is in the water by significatiō: Ergo so is the body in the sacrament.that after the same sort Christes body is in the bread, on which sort the grace and spirite of God is in the water.

Alphon. In the water is Gods grace by significatiō.

Brad. So is the body in the bread in the Sacramēt.

Alphon. You are much deceiued in that you make no difference betwene the Sacramentes that bee standers, and the Sacramentes that are transitory and passers by.MarginaliaA Popish distinction of Sacraments. As for example, the Sacramēt of Order, which you deny, though S. Augustine affirme it, it is a standerd, although the ceremonie be past. But in Baptisme

so soone as the body is washed, the water ceasseth to be a Sacrament.

Brad. Very good, & so it is in the Supper of the Lord: no longer then it is in vse, is it Christes Sacrament.

¶ Here was this Frier in a wōderful rage, & spake so high (as often he had done before) MarginaliaThe fryer in a chafe.that the whole house rang agayn, chafing with om and cho. He hath a great name of learnyng, but surely he hath litle patience. For if Bradford had bene any thing hote, one house could not haue held them. At the length he commeth to this point, that Bradford could not find in the Scripture Baptisme and the Lordes Supper to beare any similitude together. And here he triumphed before the conquest, saying that these men would receiue nothing but Scripture, and yet were able to proue nothyng by the Scripture.

Brad. Be patient, and you shal see that MarginaliaThe Sacrament of the Lordes table compared with baptisme in the scripture.by the Scripture I will find Baptisme and the Lordes Supper coupled together.

Alphon. No, that canst thou neuer do. Let me see a text of it.

Brad. Paule sayth: Marginalia1. Cor. 12.That as we are Baptised into one body: so were we potati in vno spiritu: that is: we haue dronke of one spirite, meanyng of the cup in the Lordes Supper.

Alphon. Paul hath no such wordes.

Bradford. Yes that he hath

Confes. I trow he hath not.

Brad. Geue me a Testament, and I will shew you.

¶ MarginaliaThe fryer proued a lyer in hys owne testament.So a Priest that sat by them, gaue him his Testament, and he shewed them the playne text. Then they looked one vpon an other. In fine the Friers found this simple shift, that Paul spake not of the Sacrament.

Brad. Well, the text is plaine inough, and there are of the fathers which doe so vnderstand the place: For Chrysostome doth expound it so.

Alphon. Alphonsus which had the Testament in his hand, desirous to suppresse this foile, turned þ^e leaues of the booke from leafe to leafe, till he came to the place. 1. Corin. 11.Marginalia1. Cor. 11. and there he read how that he was giltie, whiche made no difference of the Lordes body.

Brad. Yea, but therewith he sayth: He that eateth of the bread: callyng it bread still, and that after consecratiō (as ye cal it) as in the x. to the Corinthians he saith: Marginalia1. Cor. 10.The bread which we breake. &c.

Alphon. Oh, how ignoraunt are ye, which knowe not that thinges after their conuersion doe reteine the same names which they had before, as MarginaliaConuersion is mentioned, in turning Moses rodde: so is it not in the Sacrament.Moses rod: & callyng for a Bible, after he had found the place, he began to triumphe: but Bradford cooled him quickly, saying:

Brad. Syr, there is mention made of the conuersion as wel, as that the same appeared to the sense.MarginaliaMoses rod was sene to be turned so is not the Sacrament. But here ye can not find it so. Find me one word how the bread is conuerted, and I will then say, ye bring some matter that maketh for you.

Alphon. At these wordes the Frier was troubled, and at length he sayd, how that Bradford hanged on his owne sense.

Brad. No, that do I not: for I will bryng you forth the fathers of the Church. 800. yeares after Christ, to confirme this which I speake.

Alphon. No you haue the Church agaynst you.

Brad. I haue not Christes Church agaynst me.

Alphon. Yes that you haue. What is the Church?

Brad. Christes wife, the chayre and seate of veritie.

Alphonsus. Is she visible?

MarginaliaThe church is visible, but to them that haue spirituall eyes.Brad. Yea that she is to them that will put on the spectacles of Gods word to looke on her.

Alphon. This Church hath defined the contrary, and that I will proue by all the good Fathers from Christes Ascēsion euen for. 800. yeares at the least continually.