MarginaliaAn. 1555. Iuly.Brad. No syr, I can not pray so, because I am settled and assured of his truth.

Well, quoth Weston, as the learned Bishop answered S. Augustines mother, that though she was obstinate, yet the teares of such a mother could not but winne her sonne: so (quod he) I hope your prayers. (For then Bradfords eyes did shew that he had wept in prayer) can not but be heard of God, though not as you would yet as best shall please God. Do you not, quoth he, remember the hystory hereof?

Brad. Yes syr, quoth Bradford, I thinke it to be of Saint Ambrose.

West. No, that it is not. And here Weston woulde haue layd a wager, and began to triumph, saying to Bradford: as you are ouerseen herein, so you are in the other thinges.

Brad. Well syr, I will not contend with you for the name. This (I remember) Saint Augustine wryteth in his confessions.

MarginaliaM. Bradford wrongfully charged with sedition.After this talke Weston begon to tel M. Bradford how that the people were by him procured to withstād the Queene.

Whereunto Bradford aunsweryng agayne, bad him hang him vp as a traytour, and a theefe, if euer he encouraged any to rebellion: which thing his keeper and others that were there of the priestes, affirmed on his behalfe. So much talke there was to litle purpose at that tyme. D. Weston declared moreouer how hee had saued men going in þ^e cart to be hanged, & such like.

The end was this, that Bradford should send vnto hym, capita doctrinæ of the supper, and after wednesday he would come vnto hym agayne, and thus departed he after that he had dronken to hym in beare and wyne. I omit here talke of Oxford, of bookes of Germane writers, of þ^e feare of death, and such other talke which are to no purpose.

MarginaliaAn other disceptation or talke betwene Maister Bradford, and Doctour Pendleton.IN the meane tyme, when M. Bradford had written his reasons & argumentes, & had sent thē to D. Weston: in short space after about þ^e. xxviij. of March, there came to the Counter D. Pendleton, & with him þ^e foresayd M. Collier, sometyme Warden of Manchester, and Steuen Bech. After salutations M. Pendleton began to speake to Bradford, that he was sory for hys trouble. &c. And further (quod hee) after that I did know you could bee content to talke wyth me, I made the more speede, being as ready to doe the good and pleasure that I can, as ye would wish.

Brad. Sir, the maner how I was content to speake with you, was on this sort: M. Bech was often in hād with me whom he should bring vnto me, and named you amongest other: & I said that I had rather speake with you then with any of all the other. Now the cause why I so would, I will briefly tell you. MarginaliaPendelton once of the same religion with Maister Bradford.I remember that once you were (as farre as man might iudge) of the religion that I am of at this present, and I remember that you haue set foorth the same earnestly. Gladly therfore would I learne of you what thing it was that moued your conscience to alter, and gladly would I see what thing it is that you haue seene sythen, which you saw not before.

Pendle. Maister Bradford, I doo not know wherefore you are condemned.

Brad. Transubstantiation is the cause wherefore I am condemned, and because I deny that wicked men receiue Christes body: wherein I would desyre you to shew me what reasons, which before you knew not, dyd moue your conscience to alter. For once (as I sayd) you were as I am in religion.

Here M. Pendleton halfe amazed, began to excuse himself if it would haue ben, as though he had not denyed fully transubstantitiaon in dede, although I sayd (quoth he) that þ^e word was not in scripture, and so he

made an endles tale of the thing that moued him to alter: but (sayd he) MarginaliaPendelton belike would study out the reasons that moued him to alter, for he had none ready to shew.I will gather to you the places which moued me, and send you them. And here hee desyred Bradford þ^t he might haue a copy of that which he had sent to M. Weston: the which Bradford did promise hym.

Some reasoning also they had, whether euill men dyd receyue Christes body, Bradford denying and Pendleton affirming. Bradford sayd that they receyued not the spirit, ergo not the body: for it is no dead carkas. MarginaliaEuill men receiue not Christes body.Hereto Bradford brought also S. Augustine, how Iudas receiued Panem Domini, and not Panem Dominum, and how that MarginaliaHe must be in Christes body, that must receiue Christes body.he must be in Christes body, which must receaue the body of Christ. But Pendleton went about to put it away with idem, and not ad idem, and how that in corpore Christi was to bee vnderstād of al that be in the visible church with Gods elect. Bradford denyed this to be S. Augustines meaning, and said also that the allegation of idem, and not ad idem could not make for that purpose. They talked more of transubstantiation, Pendleton bringing forth Ciprian: Panis natura mutatur. &c. MarginaliaThe place of Saint Cyprian expounded how the nature of bread is changed.And Brad. said that in that place natura did not signify substaunce. As the nature of an herbe is not the substance of it: so the bread chaunged in nature is not to be taken for changed in substaunce: For now it is ordayned not for the foode of the body simply, but rather for the soule. Here also Bradford alledged the sentence of Gelasius.MarginaliaCyprian expounded by Gelasius. Pendleton sayd, that he was a Pope. Yea sayd Bradford, but his fayth is my fayth in the sacrament, if ye would receyue it.

They reasoned also whether accidentia were res or no. If they be properly res, sayd Bradford, then are they substances: and if they bee substaunces they are earthly, and then are there earthly substaunces in the sacrament, as Ireneæus sayth, which must needes bee bread. MarginaliaPendelton driuen to say that accidences be substance.But Pendleton sayd that the colour was the earthly thyng, and called it an accidentall substance.

I omitte the talke they had of my Lorde of Cant. of Peter Martyrs booke, of MarginaliaOf this letter, read before Pag. 1788.Pendletons letter layd to Bradfords charge when hee was condemned, with other talke more of the church: whether Dic Ecclesiæ was spoken of the vniuersall church, or of a particular (which Pendleton at the length graunted to be spoken of a particular church): also of vaine glory, which he willed Bradford to beware of, and such like talke. A litle before his departing, Bradford sayd thus: Maister Doctor, as I said to M. Weston the laste day, so say I vnto you againe, MarginaliaBradford could haue no reason of the Papistes to infirme his opinion against trāsubstantiation.that I am the same man in religion against transubstantiation styll, which I was when I came into prison: for hetherto I haue seene nothing in any point to infirme me. At which wordes Pendleton was something moued, and sayd that it was no catholicke doctrine. Yes, quoth Bradford, and that wyll I proue euen by the testimonie of the catholicke fathers vntill Concilium Lateranense, or theraboutes. Thus Pendleton went his way, saying that he would come oftener to Bradford. God our father be with vs all, and geue vs the spirite of his truth for euer, Amen.

¶ The same day in the after noone, about fiue of the clocke, came M. Weston to Bradford: and after gentle salutations, he desired the company euery man to depart, and so they two sat downe. And after that he had thanked Bradford for his writyng vnto him, he pulled out of his bosome the same writyng, which Bradford had sent him. The writyng is this that foloweth.

MarginaliaTransubstantiation not brought into the church before the yeare. 1215. by Pope Innocentius. 3.1..THat which is former (sayth Tertullian) is true: that which is latter is false. But the doctrine of transubstantiation is a late doctrine: for it was not defined generally afore the Coūcell of Laterane, about. 1215. yeares after Christes commyng, vnder Pope Innocen-