Marginalia1555. Iuly.heresy. How say ye, be ye contented to reforme your selfe to the lawes of the realme, & of the holy church?

MarginaliaMaister Bland vniustly suspected of heresie, and more vniustly punished.Bland. I deny that I am suspected iustly of heresye: and that ye heard when I was presented, that I denied the suspition to be iust, but to defend the vniust punishment that I haue suffered: neither can ye approue that any occasion hath bene geuen by me, wherby any man should suspect me therein. But if you haue any law or authority to proceede against me for any thing done for an whole yeare ago and more, I wyl aunswer to it.

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Col. Ye were conuented before Maister Archdeacon and me, and matter of heresy layd to your charge.

Bland. That matter was done and sayd an whole yeare ago, and for that I haue ben in prison this yeare and more. If ye haue any thing against me by any law, I desire you to let me know the law and the matter, and I will aunswere accordyng to the law.

Then sayd my Lord Suffragane:  

but that I am one of the Iudges, I would rise, and stand by thee, and accuse thee to be a Sacramentary, and bryng witnes to proue it: yea & further, that thou hast called the Masse an abominable Idole.

Bland. You (my Lord) neuer heard me say so: MarginaliaThe B. of Douer, once abhorred the Masse.But I heard you once say, that in your conscience ye had abhorred the Masse three yeares. Thou lyest (quoth he) I neuer sayd so.

Bland. My Lord, if they might be heard, I cā bryng witnes to approue it, with the day, tyme, and place: & I once did heare MarginaliaCollins the Commissary professed before the true doctrine of free Iustification by Christ.M. Collins at a visitatiō in Wingam say, that CHRIST was a full satisfaction for all sinne present, past, & to come, contrary to that he sayth now.

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And here we had more wordes of this matter, which I let passe for lacke of good remembraunce.

Master Collins sayd: this is but a drift.  

You were better aūswere now: for els you shall to prison agayn, and be called on Monday, & haue Articles layd to you, and if ye then aunswere not directly, ye shalbe condemned pro confesso,     and that will be worse for you.

Bland. Syr, I do not now, nor will not then deny to aunswere to any thyng that ye can lay to my charge by the law: wherfore I trust ye will let me haue the benefite of the law.

Collins. This is the law, that if ye be required of your Ordinary,  

reddere rationem fidei,   ye may not deny it: And that we do now.

Bland. To that then I will aunswere. MarginaliaMaister Bland confesseth all the Articles of his Crede.For I beleue in God the father almighty, maker of heauē and earth, & in IESVS CHRIST, his onely sonne our Lord, with all the other Articles of the same Creede:MarginaliaIf the fayth of the Sacrament be in the scripture and so necessary a thing, why did not the Apostles thē put it in the Crede, and in the 13. Articles? If it be not in the scripture, nor yet put in the Crede, why then doth the Pope so extremely bind vs vnto it? And I beleue all the Articles conteined, both in the Creede called the Masse Creede, and in þ^e Creede of Athanasius: And I do beleue, that all the holy Scriptures, and all thynges therin conteined, are most true.

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Collins. This will not serue you: ye must aūswere to all such Articles in all these, as shall be layd to you, or asked of you.

Bland. Let me know the lawe that is in that force (without any iust cause of suspiciō proued against me) and I will aunswere.

Collins. How say ye, will ye aunswere?

Bland. Syr, I haue aūswered you. Haue him away sayd my Lord of Douer: he had better haue aūswered.

Bland. My Lord, I am ready to aūswere if ye haue any thyng agaynst me by the law.

B. Douer. Ye haue preached many heresies in Adisham, where I am Parson now: and therfore ye must make aunswere to them.

Bland. Lay them to my charge by the law, and I wil aunswere them if ye can approue that I am bound to aunswere to that was done a yeare and more ago:  

for if ye may do that, ye may also lay to my charge, and cōpell me to aunswere to all thynges done in all my lyfe, I trow.

Collins. It is not a yeare ago since ye were before Master Archdeacon and me.

Bland. It is truth: yet it is a yeare and ten weekes since the wordes were spoken: and I haue bene a prisoner euer since, and MarginaliaM. Bland appeared at v. Sessions, and could not haue his cause tried.haue bene at v. Sessions, and neuer could haue my cause tried. Me thinke your charities should thinke it punishment enough, if I had bene giltie.

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Collins. All this will not serue you: ye must needes aūswere, and it wil be better for you to aunswere now, then an other tyme. Will ye reforme your self, and go to the Church and worshyp CHRIST in the blessed Sacrament of the aultar, and be obedient vnto all the Queenes lawes?

Bland. I pray you, wherfore am I brought hither?

MarginaliaM. Bland called before the spirituall iudges not for any matter they had, but that they would haue agaynst him.Collins. To aunswere to such thynges as are demaunded of you.

Bland. Syr, I thought ye had had some matters agaynst me by the law.

Collins. Well, on Mōday at ix. of the clocke ye shall see the law, and haue Articles layd vnto you.

Then they had spied M. Cockes the Lawyer, and called hym in, and sayd: Here is a Lawyer can tell, you are bound by the law to aūswere: and he sayd, as they had sayd.

Collins. Do ye not beleue that after the consecratiō of the blessed Sacrament of the aultar there remaineth no substaunce of bread, but the substaunce of IESVS CHRIST both God and man?

Bland. Master Cōmissary, I know not by any law why ye should aske me that question, more then any other mā here. And after a litle talke, my Lord of Douer asked me this questiō: Doest thou not beleue after the cōsecration, that it is the body of CHRIST? MarginaliaM. Bland denieth the realtie of Christes presence in the Sacrament.And I sayd no, I do not so beleue: for the Scriptures do not teach me, that there should remayne the fleshe of CHRIST, to eate as a man should eate mans flesh.

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Then M. Glasier sayd, that was the opinion of the Capernaites:  

MarginaliaThe Capernaites tooke Christ to speake literally of his body, and so doe the Papistes, and not the Protestantes. there is no man here of that opinion, and spake long of cuttyng of CHRISTES body, as men cut flesh in the Shambels.  

Then M. Doct. Faucet sayd: M. Bland, for as much as you and I were brought vp both in one house, and borne both in one Parish, I would be as glad as any man alyue, to do you good: but ye may not thus stand agaynst the Church. For CHRIST sayth: ye must hūble your selfe, and take vp his Crosse, and folow hym. And to humble your selfe in this place, is to be cōtent, and not sticke to your owne iudgement, but to humble your selfe to the holy Church, which hath determined, that after the consecration, there remaineth no bread but the naturall body and bloud of CHRIST.

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MarginaliaDeterminatiō of the church, is to be folowed so farre as the church determineth by the scriptures.Bland. Master Doctour, if ye take hūblyng of our selfe in that place, to admit the determination of the Church, thē we must know by the Scriptures, that the same Church determined nothing but accordyng to the Scriptures, as this is not: and therfore I do not beleue any such transubstantiation, nor neuer will, God willyng. Then (quoth he) I haue done with you: I will no more pray for you then for a dogge.

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Then sayd M. Glasier: how thinke ye? did Paul, whē he sayd: Is not the bread that we breake, a partaking of the body of CHRIST? Did he say Bakers bread?

Bland. Though he did not meane Bakers bread, that doth not proue that he brake naturall & reall flesh.

Gla. No by S. Mary, we say not so, but we say it is the naturall body glorified, vnder the formes of bread and wyne.

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Fes-	The glorified body of Christ was not crucified.
ti-	The Apostles did eat the body crucified:
no.	Ergo, the Apostles did not eat the glorified body of Christ.

Bland. Then the Apostles had it not as we haue: or els his glorified body was crucified for vs.

Gla. Tushe, ye do not vnderstand the Scriptures. For CHRISTES body was euer glorified in that it was so meruelously vnited to the Godhead: yea, and he shewed his body diuers tymes glorified, as in the moūt Thabor. And when he walked on the water, we see he was light, and had no weyght in hym. Was not that then a glorified body?

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