MarginaliaAn. 1555. Iuly.Bland. Thē belike Peters body was glorified: walkyng on the water was the deede of a glorified body: & the yron that Elizeus made to swym vpō the water.
Douer. Tush quoth my Lord of Douer, that was done by prayer. But they made such a noyse with laughing that I heard no more what my Lord sayd.
Bland. Masters, I know that MarginaliaIt auayleth not to reason with the Papistes in time of theyr kingdome.it auayleth vs nothyng to reason with you, no more then it booted you in the tyme of the Gospell. For then neither the reason of Eckius, Coclæus, nor yet of detection of the deuils sophistrie of my Lord Chauncelours doing,
This is a reference to Stephen Gardiner's book, defending the doctrine of transubstantiation, A detection of the devils sophistry (London, 1546), STC 11591.
Douer. No, you know Oecolāpadius, Zuinglius, and such other.
Bland. In dede my Lord, I haue seene part of theyr doinges.
Douer. That is seene by thee to day.
Glasier. I was glad when I heard you say ye beleued the Catholike Church: and now go you from it?
Bland. No that I do not.
Gla. Ye know that CHRIST sayth: If thy brother haue offended thee, go and reconcile hym, betwene thee and hym. If he heare thee not, take two or three with thee, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses, all thinges may be established. If he heare not then, Dic Ecclesiæ: If he heare not the Church, take hym as an Heathen. MarginaliaThe church visible.I pray you where could ye haue foūd this church of yours 50. yeres ago?
[Back to Top]Bland. Ye know that the true Church did not at all times flourish, but was wonderfully persecuted.
Douer. Then my Lord cryed: MarginaliaBland commaunded away.no more, I cōmaund you to hold your peace. Haue hym away, and bryng in an other.
Collins. Ye shall come agayne on Monday at ix. of the clocke, and in the meane tyme ye shall haue whom ye will to conferre withall, your frend Doct. Faucet, or M. Glasier, if ye desire them.
Bland. I will refuse to talke with no mā: as for any conference of your part, it is but weake lawes, established as they are. But when there was no law, I did desire conference. And so for that tyme I departed.
The Monday after we were brought forth to the same place againe: And thē M. Collins began to speake to me: but after what maner, it is cleane out of my mynde: but the ende was, that I would reforme my selfe. But as I did before, I demaunded what they had to lay to my charge, and to see the law, which they sayd before I should see.
[Back to Top]Douer. What needes that? we haue inough against you. For ye *Marginalia* Yea but why then did you prison hym a whole yeare before? denyed to me the trāsubstantiation in the Sacrament.
Bland. I dyd refuse to aunswere, till ye promised that I should see the law, wherby ye may compell me to aunswere.
Douer. My Lord tooke the Scribes booke, and red the aunswere that I made to D. Faucets reason, which I knew not that they had written.
Bland. My Lord, I made you no such answere whē ye asked me. I take M. Collins, and M. Glaisier to witnes. Then they brought forth a decretall, a booke of the bishop of Romes law,MarginaliaThe Popes law. to binde me to answere, which my hart abhorred to loke vpon. The effecte was, that the Ordinary had authority to examine, and that they so examined, must needes answere. But I sayd, that it meaned of such as were iustly suspecte, as I was not. And here we had much communication. For I charged them with vniust imprisonment, which they could not auoyde.
[Back to Top]MarginaliaM. Oxenden helpeth the Catholickes.But M. Oxenden would haue helped them, and said that the iustices put me in prison for a Sermon seditiously spoken, and for troubling a priest at Masse.
Bland. That is not true. For after I had bene ten weekes in prison, I was bayled till I was cast in again (and as the iustice sayd) for the disobeying mine Ordinary, which I neuer did.
Collins. Will ye be content to confer with some? It will be better for you: now we offer it you, because ye would not desire it.
Blād As I did not refuse before, no more wil I now. But I did not perceiue before, but that one might haue come without any leaue asking, to conferre the Scriptures: and therfore I loked, that MarginaliaMaister Bland was tutor to Doct. Faucet.D. Faucet wold haue come to me without desiring, if any commodity to me had bene in conference: for though I was neuer able to do him good, yet once I was his Tutor.
[Back to Top]Collins. Are ye content to come to his chamber at after none?
Bland. Sir I am a prisoner, and therefore it is mete that I obey, and come whether you will, and so departed. At this tyme we were three.MarginaliaThese 3. belike were Bland, Shetterdē, and Middleton. But they toke an other to appeare before them the Tewsday seuennight after. And when he came, I knew not what was done, but that I heare, they excommunicated him, and let him goe. MarginaliaMiller a Clothier excommunicated.His name was Miller a Clothier.
[Back to Top]What follows is a continuation of Bland's letter to his father; this heading was added in the 1570 edition.
MarginaliaThe Popish fayth of the Sacrament.MYlles, We say that CHRIST is in or vnder the sacrament really and corporally, which are the formes of bread and wyne, and that there his body is contained inuisibly, and the qualities which we do see, as whitenes and roundnes, be there wythout substāce by Gods power, as quantitie and waight be there also by inuisible measure.
[Back to Top]Bland. This is your own diuinity, to make accidēces the Sacrament, and CHRISTES reall body inuisibly contayned in them, and so to destroy the Sacrament. And yet the Doctors say: *Marginalia* i. The matter of the Sacrament is bread and wine.Materia sacramēti est panis & vinum.
Materia Sacramenti est panis & vinum
The matter of the Sacrament is bread and wine[marginal note].
Mylles. To CHRIST is geuen all power in heauen and in earth, so that by hys omnipotent power of hys Godhead he may be, and is where he listeth, and is in the sacrament really & corporally wythout occupying of place: for a glorified body occupieth no place.
Bland. Marke your own reason. All power is geuen to CHRIST, both in heauen and in earth: by þe omnipotent power of his Godhead he may be where he lyst, Ergo he is in the Sacrament really and corporally, without occupying of place.MarginaliaChrist may be where he list: Ergo, Christ is really in the Sacramēt, without occupying of place. The Antecedent is true, and the consequēt false. I denye your argumēt: for it followeth neither of your maior nor minor. And first I wold learne of you, how you know that CHRIST listeth to be present at euery Priestes lyst. For if the Priest list not to say your Masse, then Christ listeth not to be there. Againe, ye say, all power is geuē vnto CHRIST, both in heauen and in earth, so that that is the cause by your reason, that by the omnipotēt power of his Godhead, he may be where hee lyst: and by that reason he had not the power of hys Godhead, tyll he had his humaine body, & then he was not equall with the father in diuinity: for all power was not geuen to CHRIST, before the humanity and the Godhead were knit together, neyther was he Filius. Here is more daunger then ye are ware of, if ye would stand to it with iust Iudges.
[Back to Top]Mylles. We eate Christes flesh and bloud spiritually, when we receiue it with faith and charity. And we also do eate it corporally in the sacrament: and the body that we so receiue hath life. For the Godhead is annexed thereto. Which although it be receiued with the body of CHRIST, yet it is not inuisible after a grosse
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