MarginaliaAn. 1555. August.so oft as ye do this, do it in remembrance of me. And saint Paule saith: so oft as ye eate of this bread, and drinke of this cup, ye shall shew the Lordes death tyll he come. And here is asmuch reuerence geuen to the one, as the other.
MarginaliaEuen as the bread is the body: so is the cuppe the bloud.Wherefore if the bread be his body, the cup must be his bloud, and as well ye make his body in the cup, as his bloud in the bread. Then vppe rose my Lord and went to the table: where my Lord Mayor desyred me to saue my soule. To whom I aūswered, I hope it was saued through CHRIST IESVS, desyring hym to haue pity on his owne soule, and remember whose sword he caryed. At which I was caryed into the garden, and there abode vntill the rest of my friends were examined, and so were we sent away, with many foule farewelles to Newgate agayne, MarginaliaRobert Smith commaunded of Boner into Limbo.my Lorde Byshop geuing the keeper a charge to lay me in Limbo.
[Back to Top]MarginaliaAn other examination of Rob. Smith.VPon Saterday at viij. of the clocke, I was brought to his chamber agayne and there by him examined as foloweth.
MarginaliaBoner beginneth with an vntrouth.Boner. Thou Rob. Smith &c. sayst that there is no Catholicke Church here on earth.
Smith. Ye haue heard me both speake the cōtrary, and ye haue written it as a witnes of the same.
Boner. Yea, but I must aske thee this question: how sayest thou?
Smith. Must ye of necessitie begyn with a lye? it maketh manifest that ye determine to end with the same. But there shall no lyers enter into the kyngdome of God. Neuerthelesse, if ye will be answered, aske myne Articles that were written yesterday, and they shall tell you that I haue confessed a MarginaliaThe church.Church of God, as well in earth as in heauen, and yet all one Church, and one mans members, euen CHRIST IESVS.
[Back to Top]Boner. Well, what sayest þu to auricular confession? is it not necessary to be vsed in CHRISTES Church, and wilt not thou be shriuen of the Priest?
Smith. It is not nedefull to be vsed in CHRISTES Church, as I aunswered yesterday. But if it be nedefull for your Church, it is to picke mens purses.MarginaliaAuricular confession is but a pickpurse matter. And such pickepurse matters is all the whole rable of your ceremonies: for al is but money matters that ye mainteyne.
[Back to Top]Boner. Why, how art thou able to proue that Confession is a picke purse matter? Art thou not ashamed so to say?
Smith. I speake by experience. For I haue both heard and seene the fruites of the same. For first it hath bene, we see, MarginaliaThe inconueniences of Auricular confession.a bewrayer
A betrayer.
And for ensample, I began to bryng in a pageaunt, that by report was played at S. Thomas of Acres,
St Thomas Acon, a parish church in London.
Smith. To which I aunswered agayne, saying: I know you speake by practise, as much as by speculation: for both you and your predecessours haue sought all meanes possible to kill CHRIST secretly: record of M. Hunne,
Richard Hun, or Hunne, was a London merchant who many English protestants believed was murdered in prison in 1514 by the clergy. For a succinct and balanced discussion of the Hunne affair see Susan Brigden, London and the Reformation (Oxford, 1989), pp. 98-103.
Boner. Ah, ye are a generation of lyers: there is not one true word that commeth out of your mouthes.
Smith. Yes my Lord, I haue sayd that IESVS CHRIST is dead for my sinnes, and risen for my iustification, and this is no lye.
Boner. Then made he his man to put in my tale of the Gentleman of Northfolke, and would haue had me recite it againe: Which when I would not do, he made his man to put in such summes as he imagined. At the end of this, commeth in MarginaliaSir Iohn Mordant knight.M. Mordant Knight, and sate downe to heare my examination. Then sayd my Lord, how sayest thou Smith to the seuen Sacramētes? Beleuest thou not that they be Gods order, that is to say, the Sacrament of. &c.
[Back to Top]Smith. I beleue that in Gods Church are but MarginaliaTwo Sacraments.two Sacramentes, that is to say, the Sacrament of Regeneration, and the Sacrament of the Lordes Supper: and as for the Sacrament of the Altar, and all your Sacramentes, they may well serue your Church, but Godes Church hath nothing to doe with them, neither haue I any thyng to doe to aunswere them, nor you to examine me of them.
[Back to Top]Boner. Why? is Gods order chaunged in Baptisme? MarginaliaBaptisme in what poyntes it is abused by the Catholickes.In what poynt do we dissent from the worde of God?
Smith. First, in halowyng your water: in coniuryng of the same: in Baptising children, with annoyntyng, & spittyng in their mouthes, mingled with salt, & with many other leude ceremonyes, of which not one poynt is able to be proued in Gods order.
Boner. By the Masse this is the vnshamefastest hereticke, that euer I heard speake.
Smith. Wel sworne my Lord, ye keepe a good watch.
Boner. Well Master Controller, ye catch me at my wordes: but I will watch thee as well, I warrant thee.
Mordant. By my trouth my Lord, quoth M. Mordant I neuer heard the like in all my lyfe. But I pray you my Lord marke wel this aunswere for Baptisme. He disaloweth therin, holy oyntment, salt, & such other laudable ceremonies, which no Christiā man wil deny.
Smith. That is a shamefull blasphemy agaynst CHRIST to vse any mingle mangle in Baptising young infantes.
Boner. I beleue I tell thee, that if they dye before they be Baptised, they be damned.
Smith. Ye shall neuer be saued by that belief. But I pray you my Lord, shew me, are we saued by water, or by CHRIST?
Boner. By both.
Smith. Then the water dyed for our sinnes: MarginaliaThis was spokē more to cōfound the opinion of water, then to let children to haue water.and so must ye say that the water hath lyfe, and it beyng our seruaunt, and created for vs, is our Sauiour: this my Lord is a good doctrine, is it not?
Boner. Why? how vnderstandest thou these Scriptures? Except a man bee borne of water and the spirite, hee can not enter into the kingdome of God. And agayne: Suffer (sayth our Sauiour) these children to come