MarginaliaAn. 1555. October.inges of the other brought out his Christenmas dice,MarginaliaD. Dewface playeth at dice with Master Latymer. castyng there to his audiēce cinque & quater: meanyng by the cinque fiue places in þe new Testament, and the foure Doctours by þe quater,
This implausible story first appeared in an appendix to the 1563 edition (p. 1734) and was integrated into the section containing Latimer's letters in the 1570 edition.
M. Latimer hearing this Frierly Sermon
This account of Latimer's disputes with various friars in Cambridge was added in the 1570 edition.
MarginaliaAnswere of M. Latymer to Doctour Bucknhams Sermon.Then M. Latymer first repetyng the Frierly reasons of Doct. Bucknham, whereby he would proue it a daungerous thyng for the vulgar people to haue the Scripture in the vulgar toung, so refuted the Frier, so aunswered to his obiections, so dalyed with his balde reasons of the Plowman lookyng backe, and of the Baker leauing his bread vnleauened, that the vanitie of the Frier might to all men appeare: well prouyng and declaring to þe people how there was no such feare nor daunger for the Scriptures to bee in Englishe as the Fryer pretended: at least thys requiring, that þe Scripture might be so long in the English tounge, till Englishe mē were so mad, that neither the plowman durst looke backe, nor the Baker would leaue his bread vnleauened: And proceding moreouer in his Sermon he begā to discourse of the mysticall speaches and figuratiue phrases of the Scripture: which phrases he sayd were not so diffuse and difficulte, as they were commō in the Scripture, and in the Hebrue tounge most commonly vsed and knowen: and not onely in the Hebrue toung: but also euery speach (sayth he) hath his Metaphors and lyke figuratiue significations, so common and vulgar to all men, that the very Paynters do paynt them in walles and in houses: As for example (saith he, lookyng toward the Frier that sat ouer agaynst hym) whē they paynt a foxe preaching out of a Friers coule, none is so mad to take this to be a foxe that preacheth, but know well enough the meanyng of the matter, which is to paynt out vnto vs, what hypocrisie, craft, and subtile dissimulation lyeth hyd many tymes in these friers coules, willyng vs therby to beware of thē. In fine, Frier Bucknham with this Sermon was so dashed, that neuer after he durst peepe out of the Pulpit agaynst M. Latymer.
[Back to Top]Besides this Bucknham there was also MarginaliaAn other barking fryer agaynst M. Latymer.an other railing Frier, not of þe same coate, but of þe same note & faction, a Gray Frier and a Doctour, an outlandishmā called Doct. Venetus, who likewyse in his brawlyng Sermons railed and raged agaynst M. Latymer, callyng hym a mad and braynles mā, and willyng the people not to beleue hym. &c. To whom M. Latymer aunsweryng agayne, taketh for his ground the wordes of our Sauiour CHRIST. Mat. 5. MarginaliaMath. 5.Thou shalt not kill &c. but I say vnto you, who soeuer is angry with his neyghbour shalbe in daunger of Iudgement: And who soeuer shall
[Back to Top]say vnto his neighbour Racha (or any other lyke wordes of rebuking, as braineles) shalbe in daunger of Counsaile: And who soeuer shall say to his neighbour foole, shalbe in daūger of hell fire. &c. MarginaliaAnswere of Master Latymer to an other raling frier.In discussing of which place, first he diuideth the offense of killyng into iij. braunches. One to be with hand, an other with hart, the thyrd with word. With hand, when we vse any weapon drawen to spill the lyfe of our neighbour. With hart whē we be angry with hym. With word when in word or countenaunce we disdaynfully rebuke our neighbour, or despitefully reuile him. Wordes of rebuking are whē we speake any opprobrious & vnsemely thing, wherby the patience of our neighbour is moued, as when we call him mad (sayd he) or braynles or such lyke: which are giltie of counsell. Wordes of spyte or reuilyng are whē we call hym foole: which CHRIST sayth is gilty of hell fire. &c.
[Back to Top]Thus M. Latymer in hādlyng & trimming this matter, after that with the weight of CHRISTES wordes, and the explanyng of the same, he had sufficiently borne the Frier cleane downe, then he turned to the v. chap. of the booke of Wisedome.MarginaliaSap. 5. Out of the which chap. he declared to the audience, how the true seruauntes & preachers of God in this world commonly are scorned and reuyled of the proude enemyes of Gods word, which coūt thē here as mad mē, fooles, brainles, & *Marginalia* Act. 2. drunkē: so dyd they (sayd he) in the Scripture call thē which most purely preached and set forth the glory of Gods word. But, (sayd hee) what will bee the end of these gely felowes, or what will they say in the end? Nos insensati, nos insensati, &c. We madmen, we mad foules, We, we, our selues. &c. And that wilbe their end, except they repent. And thus endyng hys Sermon, he so confoūded the poore Frier, that he droue him not onely out of countenaūce, but also cleane out of the Vniuersitie.
[Back to Top]But what should I here stād decyphring þe names of his aduersaries, when whole swarmes of Friers and Doctours flockte agaynst hym on euery side almost through the whole Vniuersitie preachyng lykewise & barking against him. Amōgest whom was D. Watson master of CHRISTES Colledge, whose scholer Latymer had bene afore. D. Notaryes Master of Clarehall. Doct. Philo Master of Michael house, D. Metecalfe Master of S. Iohns, Doct. Blyth of the kynges hall. Doct. Bulloke Master of Queenes Colledge. D. Cliffe of Clement hostle, Doct. Donnes of IESVS Colledge, D. Palmes Master of S. Nicholas Hostle, Bain, Rud, and Grenewode Bach. of Diuinity, al. iij. of S. Iohns Colledge. Also Brykenden Bacheler of Diuinity of the same house, and scholer sometyme to þe sayd Latimer. Briefly, almost as many as were heades there of houses, so many impugners dyd thys worthy Standerbearer of CHRISTES Gospell sustaine.
[Back to Top]Then came at last Doct. West bishop of Eley, who preaching agaynst M. Latimer at Barwell Abbey, MarginaliaD. West Bishop of Eley forbidding Master Latymer to preach.forbad him wtin the churches of that Vniuersity to preach any more. Notwithstanding so the Lord prouided, that D. Barnes Prior of the Austen Friers, did licence Master Latimer to preach in hys Church of the Austens, and he hymselfe preached at a Church by called S. Edwardes church,MarginaliaOf this read before pag. 1364. which was þe first sermon of þe Gospell which D. Barnes preached, being vpō Christmas euen vpō a Sonday. Wherupon certayne Articles were gathered out of hys sermon, and were cōmenced agaynst hym by M. Tyrell felow of the Kings Haull, and so by the Vicechauncellour presented to the Cardinall, as in hys story before hath bene declared.
[Back to Top]Thys M. Latimer (as you haue heard) beyng bayted by the Friers, Doctors, and Masters of that Vniuersity about the yeare aforesayd. 1529. notwithstanding the maugre and malice of these malignant aduersaries, continued yet in Cambridge, preaching the space of three yeares together, with such fauour and applause of the godly, also with such admiration of his enemies that heard hym, that the Bishop hym self comming in and hearing hys gift, wished hym selfe to haue
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