MarginaliaAn. 1555. October.the truth, and in vtteryng of the truth, when shall that be as long as we will not heare the truth, but disquiete with crafty conueyaunce the preachers of the truth, because they reproue our ilnesse with the truth: And to say truth MarginaliaBetter is in the church a deforme disagrement, so that Christ be truely preached, then vniforme ignoraunce agreing in Idolatrie.better it were to haue a deformitie in preachyng, so that some would preach þ^e truth of God, and that which is to be preached, without cauponation and adulteratiō of the word (as Lyranus sayth in his time few did, what they do now a dayes I report me to them that cā iudge) then to haue such an vniformitie, that the sely people should be thereby occasioned to continue still in their lamentable ignoraunce, corrupt iudgement, superstition and idolatry, and esteme things as they do all, preposterously, doyng that that they neede not for to do, leauyng vndone that they ought to do, for lacke or wāt of knowyng what is to be done, and so shew their loue to God, not as God byddeth (which sayth: Si diligitis me, præcepta mea seruate.  

Marginaliai. If ye loue me kepe my commaundementes.And agayne: Qui habet præcepta mea & facit ea, hic est qui diligit me  

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Letter from Latimer to Sir Edward Baynton, citing St. John, 14. 21.

Foxe text Latin

Qui habet praecepta mea & facit ea, hic est qui diligit me

Foxe text translation

He that knoweth my precepts & doth them, he loueth me[marginal note].

Actual text of St. John, 14. 21. (Vulgate)

qui habet mandata mea et servat ea ille est qui diligit me.

[Clearly this passage from St. John is being cited, but note the differences in Latin vocabulary.]

Marginaliai. He that knoweth my precepts & doth them, he loueth me.) but as they byd qui quærunt quæ sua sunt, non quæ IESV CHRISTI. i.  

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Letter from Latimer to Sir Edward Baynton.

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qui quaerunt quae sua sunt, non quae IESV CHRISTI.

Foxe text translation

which seeke their owne thynges, not CHRISTES.

which seeke their owne thynges, not CHRISTES, as though to tythe mynt were more, then iudgement, fayth, and mercy.

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And what is to liue in state of Curates, MarginaliaThe state of Curates what it is.but that hee taught which said: Petre amas me? pasce, pasce, pasce:  

Peter louest thou me? feede, feede, feede: which is now set aside, as though to loue were to do nothyng els, but to weare rynges, miters, and rochets &c. And when they erre in right liuyng, how can the people but erre in louyng, and all of the new fashion, to his dishonour that suffred his passion, and taught the true kynde of louyng, which is now turned into MarginaliaThe true honour of Christ turned to Piping Plaing, and Singing.pipyng, playing, and curious singyng, which will not be reformed (I trow) nisi per manum Dei validam.  

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Letter from Latimer to Sir Edward Baynton, possibly referring to Exodus, 3. 19.

Foxe text Latin

nisi per manum Dei validam

Foxe text translation

Not translated.

Translation (Wade 2003)

except by the strong hand of God

Actual text of Exodus, 3. 19. (Vulgate)

nisi per manum validam.

And I haue both S. Austen, and S. Thomas, with diuers other, that lex is taken, not alonely for Ceremonies, but also for Moralls, where it is sayd: Non estis sub lege:  

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Letter from Latimer to Sir Edward Baynton, quoting Galatians, 5. 18.

Foxe text Latin

non estis sub lege

Foxe text translation

Not translated.

Translation (Wade 2003)

you are not beneath the law

Actual text of Galatians, 5. 18. (Vulgate)

[quod si spiritu ducimini] non estis sub lege.

though your frendes reproue the same. But they cā make no diuision in a Christiā congregation. And where as both you & they would haue a sobernes in our preachyng, I pray God sēd it vnto vs, what soeuer ye meane by it. For I see well, MarginaliaHe that will be busie with væ vobis, let him looke shortely for coram nobis.who soeuer will be happy, and busy with væ vobis,  

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Letter from Latimer to Sir Edward Baynton.

Foxe text Latin

vae vobis ... coram nobis

Foxe text translation

Not translated.

Translation (Wade 2003)

alas for you ... in our presence

he shall shortly after come coram nobis.  

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Letter from Latimer to Sir Edward Baynton.

Foxe text Latin

vae vobis ... coram nobis

Foxe text translation

Not translated.

Translation (Wade 2003)

alas for you ... in our presence

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And where your frēdes thinke that I made a lye, whē I sayd that I haue thought in tymes past that the Pope had bene Lord of the world, though your frēdes be much better learned then I yet am I sure that they know not what I either thinke, or haue thought, better thē I, iuxta illud: nemo nouit quæ sunt hominis. &c.  

as though better men then I haue not thought so, as Bonifacius (as I remēber), Octauus, the great learned mā Iohn of the burnt Tower,MarginaliaIohannes de turre Cremata. præsbiter Cardinalis in his booke where he proueth the Pope to be aboue the Councell Generall and Speciall, where he sayth that the Pope is Rex regum,  

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John Boniface VIII/John de turre Cremata?

Foxe text Latin

Rex regum ... dominus dominantium ... verus dominus totius orbis, iure, licet non facto

Foxe text translation

The king of kinges, and Lord of Lordes, ... the true Lord of the whole world by good right, albeit in fact he be not so

[Unable to locate in PL]

and dominus dominantiū. i.  

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John Boniface VIII/John de turre Cremata?

Foxe text Latin

Rex regum ... dominus dominantium ... verus dominus totius orbis, iure, licet non facto

Foxe text translation

The king of kinges, and Lord of Lordes, ... the true Lord of the whole world by good right, albeit in fact he be not so

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The king of kinges, and Lord of Lordes, and that he is MarginaliaThe Pope great Master, Lord, and King our all the world.verus Dominus totius orbis, iure, licet non facto: i.  

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John Boniface VIII/John de turre Cremata?

Foxe text Latin

Rex regum ... dominus dominantium ... verus dominus totius orbis, iure, licet non facto

Foxe text translation

The king of kinges, and Lord of Lordes, ... the true Lord of the whole world by good right, albeit in fact he be not so

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the true Lord of the whole world by good right, albeit in fact he be not so: and that Constantinus did but restore his own vnto him, whē he gaue vnto him Rome, so that in propria venit,  

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Letter from Latimer to Sir Edward Baynton, citing St. John, 1. 10.

Foxe text Latin

in propria venit ... & sui eum non receperunt

Foxe text translation

he came into his owne ... and his owne receaued him not[marginal note].

Actual text of St. John, 1. 10. (Vulgate)

in propria venit et sui eum non receperunt.

as S. Iohn saith CHRIST did, & sui eum nō receperūt:  

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Letter from Latimer to Sir Edward Baynton, citing St. John, 1. 10.

Foxe text Latin

in propria venit ... & sui eum non receperunt

Foxe text translation

he came into his owne ... and his owne receaued him not[marginal note].

Actual text of St. John, 1. 10. (Vulgate)

in propria venit et sui eum non receperunt.

Marginaliai. He came into his owne, and his owne receaued him not. Ioh. 1. and yet I heare not that any of our Christian congregation hath reclamed agaynst him, vntill now of late dissension began. Who be your frendes I can not tell: but I would you would desire thē to be my good masters, and if they wil do me no good, at the least way do me no harme: and though they can doe you more good then I, yet I am sure I would be as loth to hurt you as they, either with myne opinions, maner of Preachyng, or writyng.

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And as for the Popes high dominion ouer all,MarginaliaThe Popes dominion. there is one Raphaell Maruphus in London, an Italian, and in times past a Marchaunt of dispensations, which I suppose would dye in the quarell, as Gods true knight, and true Martyr. As touching MarginaliaPurgatory. Worshipping of Saintes.Purgatory, & worshipping of Saints, I shewed to you my mind before my Ordinary: and yet I marueiled something, that after priuate communication had with him, ye would (as it were) adiure me to open my mind before him, not geuing me warning before, sauing I can not interprete euill your doynges towardes me: and yet neither myne Ordinary, nor you disallowed the thing that I sayd, and I looked not to escape better then Doct. Crome: but when I haue opened my mind neuer so much, yet I shalbe reported to deny my preaching, of them that haue belyed my preaching, as he was. Sed opus est magna patientia ad sustinendas calumnias malignantis Ecclesiæ.  

Marginaliai. I shall haue nede of great pacience to beare the false reportes of the malignant church.

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Syr, I haue had more busines in my litle cure since I spake with you, what with sicke folkes, and what with

matrimonies, thē I haue had since I came to it, or then I would haue thought a mā should haue in a great cure. I wonder how men can go quietly to bed which haue great cures and many, and yet peraduenture are in none of them all.MarginaliaA priuy nippe to such as haue many cures, and are residēt at none. But I pray you tel none of your frēdes that I sayd so foolishly, lest I make a dissensiō in a Christian congregation, and diuide a sweete and a restfull vnion, or tot quot,  

with hæc requies mea in seculum seculi.  

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Letter from Latimer to Sir Edward Baynton.

Foxe text Latin

tot quot ... haec requies mea in seculum seculi.

Foxe text translation

Not translated.

Translation (Wade 2003)

as many … this everlasting requiem of mine.

[cf. Cattley-Pratt, vii, 571, n.2 on 'tot quots'.]

Syr I had made an ende of this scriblyng, and was beginning to write it agayn more truly and more distinctly, and to correct it, but there came a man of my Lord of Farleys, with a MarginaliaOf this citation of Iohn. B. of London, read before pag. 1905.citation to appeare before my Lord of London in hast, to be punished for such excesses as I cōmitted at my last beyng there, so that I could not performe my purpose: I doubt whether ye can read it, as it is. If ye can, well be it: if not, I pray you send it me agayn, and that you do so, whether you can read it or not. IESV mercy, what world is this, that I shall be put to so great labour and paynes, besides great costes, aboue my power, for preachyng of a poore simple Sermō? But I trow, our Sauiour CHRIST sayd true: Oportet pati, & sic intrare: tam periculosum est in CHRISTO piè viuere velle:  

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Letter from Latimer to Sir Edward Baynton.

Foxe text Latin

Oportet pati, & sic intrare: tam periculosum est in CHRISTO pie viuere velle.

Foxe text translation

I must nedes suffer, and so enter: So perilous a thing it is to liue vertuously in Christ.

Marginaliai. I must nedes suffer and so enter: So perilous a thing it is to liue vertuously in Christ. yea, in a Christen congregation. God make vs all Christen, after the right fashion, Amen.

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Here foloweth an other letter of M. Latymer written to K. Henry 8. vpō this occasion. Ye heard before pag. 1157. 1427. of ij. sondry proclamatiōs set out by þ^e Byshops in þ^e time of K. Henry, þ^e one in þ^e yeare. 1531. and þ^e other set out an. 1546. In þ^e which proclamatiōs beyng authorised by the kynges name, were inhibited all English bookes either conteinyng or tendyng to any matter of the Scripture. Where also we haue expressed at large the whole Catalogue of all their errours and heresies which the sayd Byshops falsely haue excerpted, & maliciously imputed to godly writers, with their places and quotatiōs aboue assigned in the page aforesayd.MarginaliaOf these 2. Proclamations, read before pag. 1157. 1427. Now M. Latymer growyng in some fauour with the king, and seyng the great decay of CHRISTES Religion by reason of these proclamatiōs, and touched therfore with the zealeof consciēce, directeth vnto king Henry this letter here vnder ensuyng, thereby entendyng by all meanes possible to persuade the kynges mynd to set open agayne the freedome of Gods holy word amongest hys subiectes. The copy and tenour of hys letter here foloweth.

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¶ To the most mighty Prince King of England Henry the eight, Grace, mercy, and peace from God the Father by our Lord Iesus CHRIST.

MarginaliaAn other letter of Master Latymer to King Henry.THe holy Doctor Saint Austine in an Epistle which he wrote to Casulanus sayth MarginaliaAugust. ad Casulanum.that he which for feare of any power hydeth the truth, prouoketh the wrath of God to come vpon him: for he feareth men more thē God. And according to the same, the holy man S. Iohn Chrysostome sayth: MarginaliaChrysost.that he is not alonely a traytour to the truth, which openly for truth teacheth a lye, but he also which doth not freely pronounce & shew the truth that he knoweth. These sentences (most redoubted king) when I red now of late, and marked them earnestly in the inward partes of mine hart, they made me sore afraid, troubled and vexed me greuously in my conscience, MarginaliaMaster Latimer touched in cōscience to write to the King.and at the last droue me to this straite, that eyther I must shew forth such thinges as I haue red and learned in scripture, or els to bee of the sort that prouoke the wrath of God vppon them, and be traytours vnto the truth: the which thing rather then it should happen, I had rather suffer extreme punishment.

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For what other thing is it to be a traytour vnto the truth, MarginaliaWhat is to be a traytour to truth.thē to be a traytour & a Iudas to CHRIST, which is the very truth and cause of all truth? the which sayth that who so euer denyeth him here before men, he wyll deny him before his father in heauen. The which denying ought more to bee feared and dred, then the losse of all temporall goods, honour, promotion, fame, prison, sclaunder, hurtes, banishmentes, and all maner of tormentes, and cruelties, yea, and death it selfe, be it ne-

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