Marginalia1555. October.preached as reuerently of that matter as I might, declaring what estimation and reuerence ought to be geuen to it, what daunger ensued the mishandlyng thereof, affyrming in that sacrament to be truely and verely the body and bloud of CHRIST effectuously by grace and spirite:MarginaliaD. Ridley mistaken in his sermon. which wordes the vnlearned vnderstādyng not, supposed that I had ment of the grosse and carnall beyng, which the Romish decrees set forth, that a bodye hauyng lyfe and motion, should be in deede vnder the shapes of bread and wyne.

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¶ Wyth that the B. of Lincolne, somewhat interrupting hym, sayd.

MarginaliaLincolne agayne replyeth.Lincol. Well M. Ridley, thus you wrest places  

to your own pleasure: for where as S. Austen sayth that the whole Christian world is subiect to the sea of Rome without limitation, and vseth these wordes: in transmarinis, & longe remotis terris,  

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in transmarinis, & longe remotis terris ... totus mundus ... simpliciter totus mundus ... in transmarinis ... totus mundus in transmarinis partibus ... totus mundus

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onely to expresse the latitude of the dominion of the sea of Rome, wyllyng therby to declare that all the world, yea countreyes far distant from Rome, yet neuertheles are subiect to that sea, yet you would wrest it & leaue it onely to Europe. I am sure ye wyll not deny, but that totus mundus  

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in transmarinis, & longe remotis terris ... totus mundus ... simpliciter totus mundus ... in transmarinis ... totus mundus in transmarinis partibus ... totus mundus

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is more then Europe.

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MarginaliaD. Ridley agayne answereth to the wordes of Austen.Ridley. In deede my Lorde, if S. Austen had sayde simpliciter totus mundus,  

and not added in trāsmarinis,  

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in transmarinis, & longe remotis terris ... totus mundus ... simpliciter totus mundus ... in transmarinis ... totus mundus in transmarinis partibus ... totus mundus

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it had bene wythout limitation: but in that hee sayd totus mundus in transmarinis partibus,  

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in transmarinis, & longe remotis terris ... totus mundus ... simpliciter totus mundus ... in transmarinis ... totus mundus in transmarinis partibus ... totus mundus

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all the countreys beyond the seas, he him self doth limyte the vniuersall proposition, declaryng how farre hee ment by totus mundus.  

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in transmarinis, & longe remotis terris ... totus mundus ... simpliciter totus mundus ... in transmarinis ... totus mundus in transmarinis partibus ... totus mundus

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¶ The B. not staying for thys aunswere, dyd procede, saying.

Linc. Well, if I would stay vpon this place, I could bring many moe places of the fathers for the cōfirmation thereof: but we haue certayne instructions, according to the which we must procede, and came not hether to dispute the matter with you, but onely to take your aunswers to certayne articles, and vsed this in the way of exhortation: in the which you interrupted me, wherefore I will returne thither agayne.

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MarginaliaLincolne returneth agayne to his oratiō.You must consider that the Church of CHRIST lyeth not hidden, but is a city in the mountayne and a candle on the candlesticke. Ponder with your selfe that the Church of CHRIST is catholica,  

catholicke, which is deducted of κατα ὅλον,   that is, per omnia:   so that CHRISTES church is vniuersally spread through out the world, not cōtained in the *Marginalia* And why thē do you alligate it to the citie of Rome? alligation of places,   not comprehended in the circuite of England, not contayned in the compasse of Germany and Saxony, as your church is. Wherefore M. Ridley, for Gods loue bee ye not singular:   acknowledge with all the realme, the truth, it shall not be (as you alledge) preiudiciall to the crowne, for the King and Queene their maiesties haue renoūced that vsurped power taken of their predecessours, and iustly haue renounced it.Marginalia2. powers, of the keys and of the Sword. For I am sure you know that there are two powers, the one declared by the sword, the other by the keyes. The sword is geuen to Kinges, and rulers of countreys: the keyes were deliuered by CHRIST to Peter, and of hym left to all the successours. As touching our goodes, possessions, and lyues, we with you acknowledge vs subiect to the King and Queene, who haue the temporall sword:MarginaliaEngland how subiect to the King, and how to the Pope. but as concerning matters of religion, as touching Gods quarell and his word, we acknowledge an other head: and as the King and the Queene their highnes do in all worldly affaires iustly chalenge the prerogatiue and primacy, so in spirituall and ecclesiasticall matters they acknowledge them selues not to be heads and rulers, but members of CHRISTES body. Why therefore should you sticke at that matter, the which their maiesties haue forsaken and yelded?

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MarginaliaB. Ridley exhorted to submit himselfe to the Pope.Wherefore M. Ridley, you shall not onely not doo iniury to the crowne, and be preiudiciall to their Maiesties honour in acknowledging with all Christendome þ^e Popes holines to be supreme head of Christes

Church, here militant in earth, but do a thing most delectable in their sight, and most desyred of their highnes. Thus if you shall do, reuoking together all your errors, acknowledging with the resydue of the realme the common and publicke fault, you shall do that that all men most hartely desyre: you shall bring quyetnes to your conscience, and health to your soule: then shal we with great ioy by the authority cōmitted to vs from the Cardinals grace, receiue you into þ^e church againe, acknowledging you to be no lōger a rotten but a liuely mēber of the same, but if you shall still be singular, if you shall still and obstinately perseuer in your errours, stubbornly mayntayning your former heresies, then must we against our wil, according to our commission, seperate you from vs, and cut you from the church, lest þ^e rottennes of one part in processe of tyme, putrify and corrupt þ^e whole body: then must we confesse and publish you to be none of ours: MarginaliaFeare of punishment set before him.then must we yeld you vp to the temporall iudges, of whom except it otherwyse please the king and Queenes highnes, you must receiue punishment by the lawes of this realme, due for heretickes.

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Wherefore M. Ridley, consider your state, remember your former degrees, spare your body, especially consider your soule, which CHRIST so dearely bought with his precious bloud, do not you rashly cast away that which was precious in Gods sight, enforce not vs to do all that we may do, which is onely to publish you to be none of vs, to cut you of from the church: for we do not nor can not condemne you to dye (as most vntruely hath bene reported of vs) but that is the temporall iudges *Marginalia* But that office you your selues haue assigned vnto them. office:  

we onely declare you to bee none of the church, and then must you, according to the tenour of them and pleasure of the rulers, abyde their determination, so that we, after that wee haue geuen you vp to the temporall rulers, haue no farther to do wyth you. But I trust M. Ridley, wee shall not haue occasion to do that we may. I trust you will suffer vs to rest in that poynt of our commission which we most hartely desyre, that is, vppon recantation and repentaunce to receyue you, to reconcile you, and agayne to adioine you to the vnity of the church.

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¶ Then M. Ridly with often interuption at length spake.

MarginaliaAunswere of D. Ridley to Lincolne.Rid. My Lord, I acknowledge an vnspotted church of CHRIST, in the which *Marginalia* He meaneth, in which no generall errour can be finally. no man can erre, without the which no man can be saued, the which is spred throughout all the world, that is, the congregation of the faythfull: neither do I alligate or bynd the same to any one place as you sayd,MarginaliaThe church tied to no place. but confesse the same to bee spred throughout all the world: and wher as Christes Sacramentes are duely ministred, his Gospell truely preached and followed, there doth CHRISTS church shine as a city vpon an hill, and as a candle in the candlesticke: but rather it is such as you,MarginaliaThe catholickes do bind the church to a certeine place, and that only to Rome. that would haue the church of CHRIST bound to a place, which appoynt the same to Rome, that there and no where els is the foundation of CHRISTES church. But I am fully perswaded that CHRISTES Church is euery where founded MarginaliaThe Protestantes bind the church to no one certaine place, but follow the true confession of the word.in euery place where his Gospell is truely receiued, and effectually followed. And in that the Church of God is in doubt, I vse herein the wyse Counsell of Vincentius Lyranensis,  

whom I am sure you will allow: who geuing preceptes howe the catholicke Church may bee in all schismes and herisies knowen, wryteth in this maner: MarginaliaThe Counsell of Lyra what church to follow.When (sayth he) one part is corrupted with heresies, then preferre the whole world before that one parte: but if the greatest part bee infected, then preferre antiquity.

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In lyke sort now, when I perceiue MarginaliaThe greatest part of Christianitie infected with the church of Rome and in what points.the greatest part of Christianity to be infected with the poyson of the sea of Rome, I repayre to the vsage of the Primatyue Church, which I find cleane contrary to the Popes decrees: as in that the Priest receyueth alone, in that it is made vnlawful to þ^e laitie to receiue in both kindes,

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