Marginalia1555. October.moueth me therunto.
Linc. No M. Ridley, we haue instructions to þe contrary. We may not suffer you.
Rid. I will be short: I pray your Lordship suffer me to speake in few wordes.
MarginaliaD. Ridley can not be suffred to speake.Linc. No M. Ridley, we may not abuse the hearers eares.
Rid. Why my Lord? suffer me to speake iij. wordes.
Linc. Well M. Ridley, to morow you shall speake xl. The tyme is farre past: therefore we require your answere determinatly. What say you to þe first Article? and therupon rehearsed the same.
Rid. My Protestation alwayes saued,
Reserved.
Rid. My Lord, you know that where any æquiuocation (which is a word hauing two significations) is, except distinction be geuen, no direct aunswere can be made: for it is one of Aristotles fallacies, cōteynyng Marginalia2. Questions vnder one.ij. questiōs vnder one, the which can not be satisfied with one aunswere. For both you and I agree herein, that in the Sacrament is the very true and naturall body and bloud of CHRIST, euen that which was borne of the Virgin Mary, which ascēded into heauen, which sitteth on the right hand of God the father, which shall come from thēce to iudge the quicke and the dead: MarginaliaThe Papistes and Protestantes in graunting the presence do agree: only in the maner of being they differ.onely we differ in modo, in the way and maner of beyng: we confesse all one thyng to be in the Sacrament, and dissent in the maner of beyng there. I beyng fully by Gods word therunto persuaded, confesse CHRISTES natural body to be in the Sacrament in deede by spirite and grace, because that who soeuer receiueth worthely that bread & wyne, receyueth effectuously CHRISTES body and drinketh his bloud,MarginaliaHow Christes body is effectuously receaued in the Sacrament. that is, he is made effectually partaker of his passion: and you make a grosser kynd of being, enclosing a natural, a liuely and mouing body vnder the shape or forme of bread and wyne.
[Back to Top]Now, this difference considered, to the questiō thus I aunswere: that in the Sacrament of the altar is the naturall body and bloud of CHRIST verè & realiter, in deede and really,MarginaliaHow Christ may be graunted really to be in the Sacrament, and how not. if you take these termes in dede and really for spiritually by grace and efficacy: for so euery worthy receiuer receiueth the very true body of CHRIST: but if you meane really and in deede, so that thereby you would include a lyuely and a mouable body vnder the formes of bread and wyne, then in that sense is not CHRISTES body in the Sacramēt really and in deede.
[Back to Top]¶ This aunswere taken and penned of the Notaries, the Byshop of Lyncolne proposed the second question or Article. To whom he aunswered:
Rid. Alwayes my protestation reserued, I aūswere thus: MarginaliaWhat change is in the Sacramentall bread.that in the Sacrament is a certaine chaunge in that that bread which before was cōmon bread, is now made a liuely representation of CHRISTES body, and not onely a figure, but effectuously representeth his body, that euen as the mortall body was nouryshed by that visible bread, so is the internall soule fed with the heauenly foode of CHRISTES body, which the eyes of fayth seeth, as the bodily eyes seeth onely bread.
[Back to Top]Such a MarginaliaSacramentall mutation.Sacramentall mutation I graunt to be in the bread and wyne, which truly is no small chaunge, but such a chaunge as no mortall man can make but onely the omnipotencie of CHRISTES word.
¶ Then the Bishop of Lyncolne willed him to aunswere directly, either affirmatiuely or negatiuely, without further declaration of the matter. Then hee aunswered:
Rid. That notwithstāding this sacramētall mutatiō of the which he spake, and all the Doctours confessed, MarginaliaThe substance of bread and wine in the Sacramēt not changed.the true substance and nature of bread and wyne remayneth, with the which the body is in like sort nourished as is the soule by grace & spririte with the body of CHRIST. MarginaliaComparison betwene the Sacrament of the cōmunion, and of Baptisme.Euen so in Baptisme the body is washed with the visible water, and the soule is clensed from all filth by the inuisible holy Ghost, and yet the water ceaseth not to be water, but keepeth the nature of the water still: In like sort in the Sacramēt of the Lordes supper the bread ceaseth not to be bread.
[Back to Top]Thē the Notaries penned, that he aunswered affirmatiuely to þe second Article. MarginaliaWhat difference the Catholickes put betwene the Sacrament of the cōmunion, and Baptisme.The Byshop of Lyncolne declared a difference betwene the Sacrament of the altar and Baptisme, because that CHRIST sayd not by the water: this is the holy Ghost, as he dyd by the bread: this is my body.
[Back to Top]Then M. Ridley recited S. Austen, which conferred both þe Sacramentes þe one with the other: but the Byshop of Lyncolne notwithstādyng therupon recited the thyrd Article, and required a direct aūswere. To whom Ridley sayd:
MarginaliaAnswere to the third Article.Rid. CHRIST as S. Paul writeth, made one perfect sacrifice for the sinnes of the whole world, neither can any mā reiterate that sacrifice of his: and yet is the communiō an acceptable sacrifice to God of prayse and thankes geuyng: but to say that therby sinnes are taken away (which wholy and perfectly was done by CHRISTES passion, of the which the communion is onely a memory) MarginaliaPropitiatory sacrifice of the masse is a derogatiō to Christes passion.that is a great derogatiō of the merites of CHRISTES passion: for the Sacramēt was instituted that we receiuyng it, and thereby recognising and remembryng his passion, should be partakers of the merites of the same: For otherwise doth this Sacrament take vpon it the office of CHRISTES passion, whereby it might folow that CHRIST dyed in vayne.
[Back to Top]¶ The Notaries penned this hys aunswere to be affirmatiuely. Then sayd the Byshop of Lyncolne:
Linc. In deede as you alledge out of S. Paule, CHRIST made one perfect oblation for al the whole world, that is, that bloudy sacrifice vpon the crosse: MarginaliaVnbloudy sacrifice.yet neuertheles hee hath left this sacrifice, but not bloudy, in the remembraunce of that, by the which sinnes are forgeuen: the which is no derogation of CHRISTES passion.
[Back to Top]¶ Then recited the Byshop of Lyncolne the fourth Article. To the which M. Ridley aunswered:
MarginaliaAnswere to the fourth Article.Rid. That in some part þe fourth was true, & in some part false: true in that those hys assertions were condemned as heresies, although vniustly: false in that it was sayd that they were condemned sententia scholastica,
sententia scholastica Not translated. scholarly opinion
¶ This aunswere penned of the Notaries, the Byshop of Lyncolne rehearsed þe fift Article. To þe which he aunswered:
Rid. That the premisses were in such sort true, as in these hys aunsweres he had declared. Whether that all mē spake euill of them he knew not, in that he came not so much abroad to heare what euery man reported.
¶ This aunswere also written of the Notaries, the Byshop of Lyncolne sayd:
MarginaliaD. Ridley assigned to appeare agayne the next day.Linc. To morow at viij. of the clocke you shall appeare before vs in S. Maryes Church, & then because we can not well agree vppon your aunswere to the first Article (for it was long before he was vnderstode) if it