Marginalia1555. Decemb.now do if I list.  

And after the Lordes and other worshipfull Gentlemē of the Queenes Maiesties seruaūts were set, my Lord of London placed him selfe at the end of the table, and called me to him, and by þ^e Lordes I was placed at the vpper end agaynst him: where I kneelyng down, þ^e Lordes cōmaunded me to stand vp, and after in this maner the Byshop began to speake.

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MarginaliaThe wordes of B. Boner to Master Philpot.London. M. Philpot, I haue heretofore both priuatly my selfe, and opēly before my Lordes of the Clergy, moe tymes then once caused you to bee talked withall to reforme you of your errours, but I haue not found you yet so tractable as I would wish: Wherfore now I haue desired these honorable Lordes of the temporaltie & of the Queenes Maiesties Counsaile, who haue taken paines with me this day (I thanke them therefore) to here you what you can say, that they may be iudges whether I haue sought all meanes to do you good or no: and I dare be bold to say in their behalfe, that if you shew your selfe conformable to þ^e Queenes Maiesties procedinges, you shall find as much fauour for your deliueraunce, as you can wishe. I speake not this to fawne vpon you, but to bryng you into the Church. Now let them heare what you can say.

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MarginaliaMaster Philpots answere to the Bishop.Phil. My Lord, I thāke God of this day, that I haue such an honorable audience to declare my mind before. And I can not but commend your Lordshyps equitie in this behalfe, which agreeth with the order of the primatiue Church: which was, if any body had ben suspected of heresie (as I am now) he should be called, first before the Archb. of the Dioces where he was suspected, secondly in þ^e presence of others his felow byshops & learned elders, & thirdly in the hearing of þ^e laitie: where after þ^e iudgemēt of Gods word declared, & with the assent of other Byshops and cōsent of the people he was condemned to exile for an hereticke,  

MarginaliaHeretikes in þ^e primitiue church only condemned to exile. or absolued.   And the second poynt of that good order I haue found at your Lordshyps hādes already in being called before you and your fellow Byshops: and now haue the thyrd sort of men, at whose handes I trust to finde more righteousnes in my cause thē I haue found with my Lordes of the Clergy: God graunt I may haue at last the iudgement of Gods word cōcernyng the same.

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Lond. M. Philpot I pray you ere you go any further, tell my Lordes here plainly whether you were by me or by my procurement committed to prison or not, and whether I haue shewed you any cruelty sithen ye haue bene committed to my prison.

Phil. If it shall please your Lordshyp to geue me leaue to declare forth my matter, I will touch that afterward.

Rich. Aunswere first of all to my Lordes two questions, and then procede forth to the matter. How say you? were you imprisoned by my Lord or no? can you find any faut since with his cruell vsing of you?

MarginaliaB. Boner not the cause of Master Philpots imprisonment.Phil. I can not lay to my Lordes charge the cause of my imprisonment, neither I may say that he hath vsed me cruelly, but rather for my part I might say that I haue found more gentlenes at his Lordships handes then I did at mine own Ordinaries for þ^e tyme I haue bene within hys prison, for that he hath called me three or foure tymes to mine aunswere, to the which I was not called tweluemoneth and a halfe before.

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Rich. Well, now go forth to your matter.

Phil. The matter is, that I am imprisoned for the disputation had by me in the Cōuocation house against the Sacrament of the altar, which matter was not moued principally by me, but by the Prolocutor, with the consent of the Queenes Maiesty & of the whole house: and that house beyng a member of the Parlament house, ought to be a place of free speech for all men of the house, by the auncient and laudable custome of this Realme. Wherfore I thinke my selfe to haue sustayned hitherto great iniury for speakyng my conscience freely in such a place as I might laufully do it: and I desire your honorable Lordshyps iudgementes which be of the Parlament house, whether of right I ought to be empeached therfore, & sustaine the losse of my liuing (as I haue done) & moreouer of my life, as it is sought.

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MarginaliaThe conuocation no part of the Parlament house, sayth the Lord Rich.Rich. You are deceiued herein: for the Conuocation house is no part of the Parlament house.

Phil. My Lord, I haue alwayes vnderstanded the contrary by such as are more expert men in thynges of this Realme then I: and agayne, the title of euery act leadeth me to thinke otherwise, which alledgeth the agreement of the spiritualtie and temporaltie assembled together.

Rich. Yea, that is ment of the spirituall Lordes of the vpper house.

MarginaliaWhether the couocation be part of the Parlament house or no: yet free libertie was geuen by the Queene, euery man to speake his conscience.Winsor. In dede the Cōuocation house is called together by one writ of the summons of the Parlament of an old custome: notwithstandyng that house is no part of the Parlament house.

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Phil. My Lordes, I must be contented to abide your iudgementes in this behalfe.

Rich. We haue told you the truth. Mary yet we would not that you should be troubled for any thyng that there was spoken, so that you hauyng spoken amisse, do declare now that you are sory therfore.

Lond. My Lordes hee hath spoken there manifest heresie, yea and there stoutly maintained the same agaynst the blessed Sacrament of the altar (and with that he put of his cap that all the Lordes might reuerence and vayle their bonets at that Idole as they did) and would not allow the reall presence of the body and bloud of CHRIST in the same: yet my Lords, God forbid that I should go about to shew him extremity for so doyng, in case he will repent and reuoke his wicked sayinges: and in faith if he will so do, with your Lordships consent he shalbe released by and by: Mary if he will not, he shall looke for the extremitie of the law, and that shortly.

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Chamb. My Lord of London speaketh reasonably vnto you: take it whiles it is offred you.

Rich. How say you? will you acknowledge the reall presence of the bloud and body of CHRIST, as all the learned men of this Realme do in the Masse, and as I do, and will beleue as long as I liue, I do protest it?

Phil. My Lord, I do acknowledge in the Sacramēt of the body and bloud of CHRIST such a presence, as the word of God doth allow and teach me.

Rich. That shall be none otherwise then you list.

Lond. A Sacrament is the signe of a holy thyng: MarginaliaHow Boner taketh in the Sacrament, to be both the signe and the thing signified.So that there is both the signe which is the accident (as the whitenes, roundnes, and shape of bread) and there is also þ^e thyng it self, as very CHRIST both God and mā. But these heretickes will haue the Sacramentes to bee but bare signes. How say you? declare vnto my Lordes here whether you do allow the thing it selfe in the Sacramēt or no?

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MarginaliaBoth the signe and the thing signified in due respectes, be in the Sacrament.Phil. I do confesse that in the Lordes Supper there is in due respectes both the signe and the thyng signified,  

when it is duely ministred after the institution of CHRIST.

Lond. You may see how hee goeth about the bush (as he hath done before) with my Lordes of the Clergie, and dare not vtter his mynd plainly.

Riche. Shew vs what maner of presence you allow in the Sacrament.

Phil. If it shall please you my Lord of London, to geue me leaue to procede orderly thereunto, and to let me declare my mynd without interruption, I will throughly open my mynd therin.

L. Shand. I pray you my Lord, let him speake his mind.

Phil. My Lordes, that at the first I haue not plainly declared my iudgement vnto you is this, because I can not speake hereof without the daunger of my life.

Rich. There is none of vs here that seeketh thy life,MarginaliaYe say ye seeke not hys life, and yet ye know to aunswere to that ye aske will be hys death. or meane to take any aduantage of that thou shalt speake.

Phil. Although I mistrust not your honorable Lordshyps that be here of þ^e tēporalitie: yet here is one that sitteth agaynst me (poynting to my Lord of London) that will lay it to my charge euē vnto the death.  

Notwithstandyng, seing your honours do require me to declare my mynde of the presence of CHRIST in the Sacrament, that ye may perceiue that I am not ashamed of the Gospell of CHRIST, neither do maintayne any opinion without probable and sufficient authority of the Scripture, I will shew them frankely my mind without all colour, what soeuer shall ensue vnto me therefore, so   that my Lord of London will not let me to vtter my mynde.

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Rich. My Lorde, permit him to say what he can, seyng