MarginaliaAn. 1555. December.he is willying to shew his minde.
London. I am content my Lordes, let him say what he can, I will heare him.
Phil. That which I doe entend to speake vnto you (right honorable Lordes) MarginaliaThe protestation of Iohn Philpot before the lordes.I do protest here, first before God and his Aungells, that I speake it neither of vaynglory, neither of singularitie, neither of willfull stubburnes, but truly vpon a good conscience grounded on Gods word, against þe which I dare not do for feare of damnatiō which will folow that which is done contrary to knowledge. Neither do I disagree to the procedynges of this Realme in Religion for that I loue not the Queene (whom I loue from the bottom of my hart) but bicause I ought to loue and feare God in hys word more then man in hys lawes, though I stand as I seeme to do, in this cōsideration, and for none other, as God I call to witnes.
[Back to Top]MarginaliaTwo thinges wherein the clergie deceaueth the whole realme.There be two thinges principally, by the which the Clergy at this day doth deceiue the whole realme: that is, the Sacrament of the body and bloud of CHRIST, and the name of the Catholick church: the which both they do vsurpe, hauing in deede none of them both.MarginaliaThe Papistes haue neither the Sacramēt of the lordes body nor the true church. And as touching their Sacrament, which they terme of the aultar, I say now as I sayd in the Conuocation house, that it is not the Sacrament of CHRIST, neyther in the same is there any maner of CHRISTES presence. Wherfore they deceiue the Quenes maiesty, and you of the nobility of this realme, in making you to beleue that to be a Sacrament which is none, and cause you to commit manifest idolatry in worshipping that for God, which is no God. And in testimony of this to be true, besydes manifest proofe which I am able to make to the Queenes maiesty and to all you of her nobility, I will yeld my lyfe. The which to do, if it were not vpon a sure ground, it were to my vtter damnation.
[Back to Top]And where they take on them the name of the Catholicke churchMarginaliaPapistes vntruly vsurpe the name of the church. (wherby they blynd many folkes eyes) they are nothing so, calling you from the true religion which was reueled and taught in K. Edwardes tyme, vnto vayne superstition. And this I will say for the triall hereof, that if they can proue them selues to be the Catholicke church (as they shall neuer be able to do) I will neuer be against their doinges, but reuoke all that I haue sayd. And I shall desyre you (my Lordes) to be a meane
Be a medium, a means of communication.
Repeatedly.
London. It hath bene tolde me before, that you loue to make a long tale.
Rich. All heretickes do boast of the spirit of God, and euery one would haue a church by himselfe: as Ione of Kent
Joan Boucher was burned in Edward VI's reign, in 1550, for her anabaptist religious convictions.
Phil. As for Ione of Kent, she was a vaine woman (I knew her well) & an hereticke in dede, well worthy to be burnt because she stode against one of the manifest articles of our fayth, contrary to the scripture:
Joan Boucher had denied the incarnation and the virgin birth.
contrary to the word, as I haue Gods word throughly on my syde to shew for that I stand in.
London. I pray you, how will you ioyne me these two scriptures together: Pater maior me est: et pater & ego vnum sumus,
Pater maior me est: et pater & ego vnum sumus The Father is greater then I: and, I and the father are one. [quia] Pater maior me est ... ego et Pater unum sumus. [Accurate citation]
Phil. Yes that I can right well. For we must vnderstād that in CHRIST there be two natures, the diuinitie and humanitie, and in respect of his humanitie it is spoken of CHRIST: The Father is greater then I. But in respect of his deitie, he sayd agayn: The Father and I be one.
London. But what scripture haue you?
Phil. Yes, I haue sufficient scripture for the proofe of that I haue sayd. For the first, it is written of CHRIST in the Psalmes: MarginaliaPsalm. 8.Diminuisti eum paulominus ab Angelis:
Diminuisti eum paulominus ab Angelis. Thou has made him a little lesser then Angels. minuisti eum paulo minus ab angelis. minues eum paulo minus a Deo. [The readinga Deoin the translation from the Hebrew, rather thanab angelisin the translation from the Greek would suggest that Philpot was remembering the Greek text of Psalms, if not a Latin text.] Coeli enarrant. Not translated. The heavens are telling. caeli enarrant gloriam Dei. [Philpot incorrectly cites this as Psalm 15, but is apparently working from memory.]
London. It is in Domine Dominus noster.
Philpot is quoting Psalm 8:5 but is incorrectly citing it as Psalm 15.
One of the canonical hours of the breviary during which prayers and psalms are said.
Phil. Though I say not mattins in such order as your Lordship meaneth: yet I remember of olde, that Domine dominus noster, and Cœli enarrant, be not farre asunder: and albeit I misnamed the Psalme, it is no preiudice to the truth of that I haue proued.
London. What say you then to the second scripture? how couple you that by the worde to the other?
Phil. The text it selfe declareth, that MarginaliaScriptures alleged.notwithstanding CHRIST dyd abase himselfe in our humane nature: yet hee is still one in deitie wyth the father. And thys S. Paule to the Hebrewes doth more at large set foorth. And as I haue by the scriptures ioyned these two scriptures together, so am I able to do in all other articles of fayth which we ought to beleue, and by the manifest wordeof God to expound them.
[Back to Top]London. How can that be, seing S. Paule saith, that the letter killeth, but it is the spirite that geueth lyfe.
Phil. S. Paule meaneth not that the woorde of God written in it selfe killeth, which is the worde of lyfe and the faythfull testimony of the Lord, MarginaliaHow the letter killeth, and whom.but that the word is vnprofitable and killeth him that is void of the spirit of God, although hee bee the wysest man of the world: and therefore S. Paule sayd, Marginalia2. Cor. 3.that the Gospell to some was a sauour of lyfe vnto lyfe, and to some other a sauour of death vnto death. Also an exāple hereof wee haue in the vj. of Iohn, of them who hearing þe word of God without the spirite were offended therby: wherefore CHRIST sayd: MarginaliaIohn. 6.the flesh profiteth nothing, it is the spirit that quickeneth.
[Back to Top]London. What? do you vnderstand that of S. Paule and of S. Iohn so?
Phil. It is not myne owne interpretation, it is agreable to the word in other places: and I haue learned the same of auncient Fathers interpreting it likewise. And to the Corinthians it is written: Animalis homo nō percipit ea quæ sunt spiritus Dei: spiritualis diiudicat omnia.
Animalis homo non percipit ea quae sunt spiritus Dei: spiritualis diiudicat omnia. The naturall man perceyueth not the thinges that be of the spirit of God: but the spirituall man [which is indued with the spirit,] iudgeth all thinges. animalis autem homo non percipit ea quae sunt Spiritus Dei ... spiritalis autem iudicat omnia. [Accurate citation]
London You see my Lordes, that this man will haue but his owne mynd, and will wilfully cast away hymselfe. I am sory for hym.
Phil. The words that I haue spokē be none of myne but of the Gospell, whereon I ought to stand. And if you my Lord of London, can bring better authority for the faith you would draw me vnto, then that which I stand vpō, I will gladly heare the same by you or by any other in this realme.