MarginaliaAn. 1555. December.the Lords rose vp, none of them saying any euill word vnto me, halfe amazed, in my iudgement, God worke it to good.
Thus endeth the sixt part of this tragedie:
The seuenth looke for with ioy.
The preceeding six words are another indication that Philpot wrote these examinations in instalments.
John Dee's name was removed in the 1576 edition; see Julian Roberts, 'Bibliographical Aspects of John Foxe' in David Loades (ed.), John Foxe and the English Reformation (Aldershot: 1997), pp. 36-37 and 49.
This examination is taking place nearly two weeks after the examination by various nobles. In this examination, Bonner seems to be starting to proceed formally against Philpot but then gets bogged down in argument. Whether this was a calculated attempt to intimidate Philpot or Bonner changed his mind is difficult to say, but a week of informal examinations, in which efforts are made to convince to recant, followed.
[Back to Top]MarginaliaAn other calling of Iohn Philpot before the Bishop.LOndon. Syrha come hither. How chaunce you come no sooner? Is it well done of you to make Master Chauncellour and me to tary for you this houre? by the faith of my body, halfe an houre before Masse, and halfe an houre euen at Masse, lookyng for your comming?
[Back to Top]Phil. My Lord, it is not vnknowen vnto you, that I am a prisoner, and that the doores bee shut vppon me, and I can not come when I lyst: but as soone as the doores of my prison were open, I came immediatly.
Lond. We sent for thee to the intēt thou shouldest haue come to Masse. How say you, would you haue come to Masse or no, if the doores had sooner bene opened?
Phil. My Lord, that is an other maner of question.
Lond. Loe Master Chauncellor, I told you we should haue a froward felow of him: he will aunswere directly to nothyng. I haue had him before both the spirituall Lordes and the temporall, and thus he fareth still: yet he reckeneth him selfe better learned then all the Realme. Yea, before the temporall Lordes the other day, he was so foolish to chalenge the best: hee would make him selfe learned, MarginaliaYou sayd before he was learned.and is a very ignoraunt foole in deede.
[Back to Top]Phil. I recken I aunswered your Lordshyp before the Lordes playne enough.
London. Why aunswerest thou not directly, whether thou wouldest haue gone to Masse with vs or no, if hou haddest come in tyme?
Phil. Mine aunswere shalbe thus, that if your Lordshyp can proue your masse, wherunto you would haue me to come, to be the true seruice of God. whereunto a Christian ought to come, I wil afterward come with a good will.
Lond. MarginaliaNote how substancially B. Boner proueth the Masse.Looke I pray you: the kyng and the Queene, and all the nobilitie of the Realme do come to Masse, and yet he will not. By my faith thou art to well handled: thou shalt be worse hādled hereafter, I warrāt thee.
Windowless.
London. Thou art a foole, and a very ignorant foole. Master chauncellor, in good fayth I haue handled hym and hys fellowes with as much gentlenes as they can desire. I let their frends come vnto them to relieue thē.
I.e., to supply them with food clothing and other necessities.
Phil. MarginaliaThe prisoners charged with that which they neither did nor knew of.My Lorde, wee haue no such resorte to vs as your Lordship imagineth, and there cōmeth very fewe vnto vs. And of Prentises I knowe not one, neyther haue we any leades to walke on ouer our Colehouse, that I wot of: wherefore your Lordship hath mystaken your marke.
[Back to Top]Lond. Nay, now you thinke (because my MarginaliaHe meaneth Steuen Gardiner, which in this moneth dyed a litle before.Lord Chauncellour is gone) that we will burne no mo: yes I warrāt thee, I wil dispatch you shortly, vnlesse you do recant.
Phil. My lord, I had not thought that I should haue bene alyue now, neyther so raw as I am, but well rosted vnto ashes.
Chaun. Cast not your selfe wilfully away M. Philpot. Be content to be ruled by my Lord here, & by other learned men of this realme, and you may do wel inough.
Phil. MarginaliaM. Philpot standeth vpon his conscience and the feare of God.My conscience beareth me recorde that I seeke to please God, and that the loue and feare of God causeth me to do as I doe: and I were of all other creatures most miserable, if for myne owne wyll onely I dyd lose all the commodities
Advantages, profits.
Chaun. You are not so sure, but you may be deceaued.
London. Well, since thou wylt not be conformable by
no faire meane, MarginaliaB. Boner procedeth Ex officio with Mr. Philpot.I wyll proceede against thee Ex officio,
Officially, formally.
A piece of paper.
Phil. Your libell (my Lord) containeth in sūme, two speciall poyntes: The first pretendeth, that I should be of your diocesse, and therefore your Lordship vpon diuers suspectes and infamies of heresie goyng vpon me, is moued to proceede agaynst me by your Ordinary office:
By the authority of Bonner as the bishop of the diocese in which Philpot resided; Philpot is protesting that Bonner is not his ordinary.
London. What? art thou not of my dioces? Where are ye now, I pray you?
Phil. My lord, I cā not deny but I am in your Colehouse, which is in your diocesse: yet am I not of your diocesse.
London. You were sent hether vnto me by the Quenes maiesties cōmissioners, and thou art now in my dioces: wherfore I wyll proceede against thee as thy Ordinary.
Phil. I was brought hether through violence, and therefore my present beyng now in your dioces, is not inough to abrydge me of myne own ordinarye iurisdiction, MarginaliaIohn Philpot chalengeth the priuiledge of his ordinary right.neyther maketh it me vnwillyngly subiect to your iurisdiction, since it commeth by force, and by such men as had no iust authority so to do, no more then a sanctuary man beyng by force brought foorth of hys place of priuiledge, doth therby lose hys priuiledge, but alwaies may chalenge the same where soeuer he be brought.
The privilege of sanctuary was of two types: that belonging to consecrated ground and that belonging to a franchise and liberty to which the king had granted exemption from certain of his jurisdictional rights. Philpot is referring to the latter type of sanctuary.
Chadsey. Hath not the Queenes Maiesty authority by her Commissioners, to remoue your body whether shee wyll? and ought you not to obey herein?
Phil. I graunt that the Queenes maiestye (of her iust power) may transpose my body, whether it shall please her grace to commaunde the same. But yet by your lawes, MarginaliaSpirituall things are not subiect to temporal powers & therfore the temporal cōmissioners had no power to remoue him into an other mans dioces.Spiritualia non sunt subiecta Imperatoris potestati. i.
Spiritualia non sunt subiecta Imperatoris potestati. Spirituall causes bee not subiect to the temporall power.
London. Doth not a man (I pray you) sortiri forum ratione delicti?
sortiri forum ratione delicti Not translated. to draw lots
Phil. My Lord, your rule is true in temporall matters, but in spirituall causes it is not so: which bee otherwyse priuiledged.
London. What sayest thou then to the seconde article, & to the other?
Phil. My Lord, I say that I am not boūd to answer the second, neyther the rest, vnlesse the fyrst be proued.
London. Well, suppose the fyrst may bee proued (as it wyll be) what will you say then to the second, that you are not of the same catholicke fayth, neither of the same church now, as you were baptised in?
Phil. I am of the same catholicke fayth, and of the same catholicke church which is of CHRIST, the pyller and stablishment of truth.
London. Nay that you are not.
Phil. Yes that I am.
Londou. Your Godfathers and Godmothers were of an other faith then you be now.
Phil. I was not baptised neyther into my Godfathers fayth nor my Godmothers, but into the fayth, & into the church of CHRIST.MarginaliaA man is not baptised into his godfathers fayth, nor hys godmothers fayth: but into the fayth of Christes church.
Lond. How know you that?
Phil. By the word of God, which is the touchstone of fayth, and the limites of the Church.
Lond. How long hath your church stand, I pray you?
Phil. Euen from the beginning, from CHRIST and from his Apostels, & from their immediate successors. MarginaliaIohn Philpot proueth his church to be from Christ.
Chaun. He wil proue his church to be before CHRIST.
Phil. If I dyd so, I go not amysse: for there was a Church before the comming of CHRIST, which maketh one catholicke Church.