MarginaliaAn. 1555. December.men of this Realme doe condemne you. And why will you be so singular?
Phil. I haue sayd, and still do say, that if you can be able to proue it vnto mee, that I will bee of the same. But I am sure that the church which you do make so much of, is a false church, MarginaliaThe Popes side not able to proue the church of Rome to be the holy Catholicke church.and a Sinagoge of Satan. And you with the learned men of this realme do persecute the true Church, and condemne such as bee more righteous then you.
[Back to Top]Chaun. Do you heare (M. Doctour) what he saith, that the church of Rome is the deuill?
Chad. I wish you dyd thinke more reuerently of the church of Rome. What will you say if I can shew you out of S. Austine in his Epistle written vnto Pope Innocentius, that the whole generall Councell of Carthage did allow þe church of Rome to be chiefest ouer all other?
Phil. I am sure you can shew no such thing. And with that he fet the booke of S. Austine, and turned to the Epistle: but he could not proue his allegation manifestly, but by coniectures in this wyse:
Chad. Marginalia3. Blind coniectures out of the epistle of Austen to Innocentius, prouing the Sea of Rome to be supreme head.Here you may se that the counsell of Carthage
Carthage was the site of numerous councils. Chedsey is referring to the series of councils held there from 393 to 424 which debated the claims of Rome to exercise jurisdiction over the African church.
Phil. MarginaliaThe coniectures of D. Chadsey answered.MarginaliaHow the Sea of Rome may be called Apostolicall and how not Apostolicall.MarginaliaThe being of Peter at Rome geueth no perpetuitie to Rome to be the head of the whole church.Master Doctour, I haue considered how you doe way S. Augustine: and contrary to his meaning and woordes you would inferre your false conclusion. As concerning that it was called by hym the Apostolicall Sea, that is not materiall to proue the Church of Rome now to be the catholicke church. I will graunt it now that it is þe Apostolicke sea, in respect that Paul & Peter did once there preach the Gospel, & abode there for a certayne season. I would you could proue it to bee the Apostolicall sea of that true religion and sincerity as the Apostle left it, and did teach the same: the which if ye could do, you might boast of Rome as of the Apostolicall sea: Otherwyse it is now of no more force, then if the Turke at Antioch, & at Ierusalem should boast of the Apostolicke seas, because þe Apostles once dyd there abyde, and founded the Church of Christ.
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The Councell of Carthage wrote to Innocentius B. of Rome to confirme their actes with his subscription: Ergo the B. of Rome is aboue all Bishops.
Argument. a causa non sufficiente.And where as that the whole Coūcell of Carthage did wryte vnto Pope Innocentius,
Innocent I (pope from 402 - 417), an energetic proponent of papal claims to authority over other bishops.
Schismatic group in North Africa. They seceded from the church in the early fourth century over their refusal to recognize clergy who had co-operated with the authorities during Diocletian's persecution of the Christians.
MarginaliaThe scope of S. Augustines argument is not to proue the Church of Rome therefore to bee sound in doctrine because it hath succession of Byshops from the Apostles, but to proue the Donatistes to bee schismatickes, for that the Church of Rome continuing both sound in the doctrine of the Apostles, and also in reteyning still succession of Bishops frō the Apostles tyme, yet they woulde forsake the vnitie of that Church, and set vp an other Church of theyr owne. Marginalia
The Argument is this.
To disceuer from that Church which, by continuall succession of Byshops descendeth from the Apostles, and keepeth the same institution still in fayth and doctrine, is to breake the vnitie of the church, & to be schismaticks.
The Donatistes do so frō the church of Rome, hauing no iust cause of doctrine so to do.
Ergo, the Donatistes be Schismatickes.And touchyng þe succession of the Byshops of Rome brought in by S. Austen, it maketh nothing now therby to proue the same the Catholicke Church, vnlesse you can conclude with the same reason as S. Austen doth. And the rehearsall of the succession of the Byshops doth tend to this only, to proue the Donatistes to be heretickes, because they began aswel at Rome as in Africa, to founde an other Church of their owne setting vp, then was grounded by Pe-
ter and Paul and by their successours, whom he reciteth vntill his time, which all taught no such doctrine, neither no such Church as the Donatistes. And if presently you be able to proue by the successiō of Byshops of Rome (wherof you do glory) that no such doctrine hath ben taught by any of the successours of Peters sea as is now taught and beleued of vs, you haue good reason agaynst vs: otherwise, it is of no force, as I am able to declare.
[Back to Top]Chaunc. MarginaliaThe Chauncelor about to minister articles agaynst Iohn Philpot.Well Master Doctour, you see we can do no good in persuading of him: let vs minister the Articles which my Lord hath left vs, vnto him. How say you M. Philpot to these Articles? Master Iohnson, I pray you write his aunsweres.
Phil. MarginaliaIohn Philpot refuseth þe Chaūcelor to be his Ordinarie.Master Chauncellour, you haue no authoritie to enquire of me my belief in such Articles as you go about, for that I am not of my Lord of Londons Dioces: and to be brief with you, I will make no further aunswere herein, then I haue already to the Byshop.
[Back to Top]Chaunc. Why, then let vs go our wayes, and let his keper take him away.
Thus endeth the vij. part of this tragedie.
The notes are at the end of the examinations were written Philpot, not by Foxe.
MarginaliaPriuate talke betwene M. Philpot, & Bishop Boner.PHil. The next day
I.e., 20 November 1555.
Bishops man. Master Philpot where be you?
Phil. Who is that calleth me?
Bis. man. My Lordes will is, you should rise and come to heare Masse: will you come or no?
Phil. My stomacke is not very good this mornyng: you may tell my Lord I am sicke. After this the keeper was sent to bring me to my Lord.
The keper. Master Philpot, you must rise and come to my Lord.
Phil. I am at your cōmaundement (Master Keper) as soone as I can: and goyng out of the prison he asked me, saying:
The keper. Will you go to Masse?
Phil. My stomacke is to raw to disgest such raw meates of flesh, bloud, and bone this mornyng.MarginaliaA maruell. How the priestes eating vp a whole mans flesh, blud, and bone to breakefast can haue such a hungry stomacke to theyr dinner afterward as they haue, as if they had eaten neuer a bit of meate before. After this my keeper presented me to the Byshop in his hall.
[Back to Top]London. Master Philpot, I charge you to aunswere to such Articles as my Chaplaine M. Dee, and my Register haue from me to obiect against you, to & aūswere them.
Phil. My Lord, Omnia iudicia debent esse publica:
Omnia iudicia debent esse publica. All iudgementes ought to be publicke.
Lond. Thou art a foolish knaue I see wel inough: thou shalt aunswere whether thou wilt or no. Go thy wayes with them I say.
Phil. I may well go with them at your Lordshyps pleasure: but I will make them no further aunswere then I haue sayd already.
Lond. No wilt thou knaue? Haue him away, MarginaliaIohn Philpot commaunded to be set in the stockes in the Colehouse.and set him in the stockes. What foolish knaue?
Phil. In deede (my Lord) you handle me with others like fooles: and we must be content to be made fooles at your handes: stockes and violence is your Byshoplike almes. You go about by force in corners to oppresse, and be ashamed that your doings should come to light: God shorten your cruell kyngdome for his mercyes sake. And I was put by and by into the stockes in an house alone separate from my felowes. God be praysed that he hath thought me worthy to suffer any thyng for his names sake. Better it is to sit in the stockes of this world, then to sit in the stockes of a dānable conscience.
[Back to Top]MarginaliaAn other daies talke of the B. with Iohn Philpot and other prisoners.PHil. The next day after,
I.e., 21 November 1555.
The keper. M. Philpot, arise, you must come to my lord.