Marginalia1556. March.know hym not. I pray God geue hym grace not to folow hys auncetors. Neyther say I this for my defence, but to declare my conscience for the zeale that I beare to Gods woorde, troden vnder foote by the Byshop of Rome. I cast feare apart, for CHRIST sayd to his Apostels, that in the latter dayes they should suffer much sorow, and be put to death for his names sake: feare them not (sayth he) but feare hym which when he hath killed the body, hath power to cast the soule into fyre euerlasting. Also CHRIST sayth: MarginaliaMath 16. Mar. 8.that he that will lyue shall dye, and he that looseth his lyfe for my names sake, he shall fynd it agayne. Moreouer he sayd: confesse me before men, and be not afrayd: if you doe so I will stand with you: if you shrincke from me I will shrincke from you. Thys is a comfortable & a terrible saying, this maketh me to set all feare apart. I say therfore the Bishop of Rome treadeth vnder foote Gods lawes and the kings.

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MarginaliaThe Popes lawes against the lawes of this Realme.The Pope would geue Bishoprickes: so would the king. But at the last the kyng gat the vpper hand, and so are all Bishops periured, first to þ^e Pope and then to the kyng.

The Crowne hath nothing to doe with the Clergy. For if a Clarke come before a Iudge, the Iudge shall make processe against him, but not to execute any lawes. For if þ^e iudge should put him to execution, then is þ^e king accursed in maintaining his own lawes: And therefore say I that he is neyther true to God, neither to the king that first receaued the Pope. But I shall hartely pray for such Coūsellours, as may informe her the truth, for the King and Queene if they be well infourmed, will do well.

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Mart. As you vnderstand, then if they mayntayne the Supremacy of Rome, they can not maynetayne England too.

Cranmer. I requyre you to declare to the king and Queene what I haue sayd, and howe their othes do stand with þ^e Realme and the Pope. S. Gregory sayth, MarginaliaTo be called vniuersall head, is a marke of Antichrist. Gregor.he that taketh vpon him to be head of the Vniuersal church, is worse then the Antichrist. If any man can shew me, that it is not agaynst Gods worde to holde hys styrrop when he taketh hys horse, and kysse hys feete (as kings do) then will I kisse hys feete also.

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MarginaliaThe Bish. of Glocester charged with periury.And you for your part my Lorde, are periured, for now ye sit iudge for the Pope, and yet ye did receaue your Byshopricke of the king. You haue taken an oth to be aduersary to this Realme, for the Popes lawes are contrary to the lawes of the Realme.

Gloc. You were the cause that I dyd forsake the Pope, and did sweare that he ought not to be supreme head, and gaue it to king Henry the eight, that he ought to be it, and this you made me to do.

Cran. To this I aunswere, sayd hee: You report me ill, and say not the truth, & I will proue it here before you all. MarginaliaWarrham Archb. gaue vp first the supremacie to the King.The truth is, that my predecessor bishop Warrham gaue the supremacy to K. Henry. 8. & sayd that he ought to haue it before the bishop of Rome, and that Gods word would beare him. And vpon the same was there sent to both the Vniuersities Oxford and Cambridge, to knowe what the word of God woulde doe touching the supremacy, and it was reasoned vpon and argued at length. MarginaliaBoth the vniuersities subscribed to the Kinges supremacie before Cranmer was Archbishop.So at the last both the Vniuersities agreed, and set to their seales, and sent it to kyng Henry the eight to the court, that hee ought to bee supreme head, and not the Pope. Wherupon you were then Doctor of diuinitie at that time, and your consent was thereunto, as your hand doth appeare. Therfore you misreport me, that I was the cause of your fallyng away from the Pope, but it was your selfe. All thys was in bishop Warrhams tyme and whilest he was alyue, so that it was three quarters of a yeare after ere euer I had the bishopricke of Canterbury in my hands, & before I might do any thing. So that here you haue reported of me that which you cannot proue, which is euil done. All this wyle hys cap was on hys head.

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Gloc. We come to examine you, and you, me thinke, examine vs.

MarginaliaDoct. Storyes oration against the Archb.Story. Pleaseth it your good Lordship: because it hath pleased the kyng and Queenes Maiesties to appoint my companion and me, to heare the examination of thys mā before your good Lordship, to geue me leaue somewhat to talke in that behalfe. Although I knowe that in talke wyth heretickes there commeth hurt to all men, for it weerieth the stedfast, troubleth the doubtfull, and taketh in snare the weake and simple: yet because he sayth, he is not bound to aunswer your Lordship sitting for the Popes holines, because of a Premunire, and the word of God, as he termeth it: I thynke good somwhat to say, that all men may see how hee runneth out of hys race of reason into the rage of common talke, such as here I trust hath done much good. And as þ^e kyng & Queenes Maiesties wyll be glad to heare of your most charitable dealyng wyth hym, so wil they be weery to heare the blundering of thys stubburne hereticke. And where he alledgeth diuinity, mingling fas nefasq; together, he should not haue bene heard. For shall it be sufficient for hym to alledge, the iudge is not competent? Do we not see that in the common law it is not lawfull for a man in Westminster hall to refuse hys Iudge? And shall we dispute contra eum qui negat principia?  

Although there be here a great companie of learned men that know it vnmeete so to do, yet haue I here a plaine Canon wherein he declareth him selfe conuicted ipso facto. This Canon is this: MarginaliaWordes of the Popes Canon.Sit ergo ruinæ suo dolore prostratus quisquis Apostolicis voluerit contraire decretis, nec locum deinceps inter Sacerdotes habeat, sed exors a sancto fiat ministerio, nec de eo eius iudicio quisq̃ posthac curā habeat, quin iam damnatus a sancta & Apostolica Ecclesia sua inobediētia ac presumptione a quoquā esse non dubitetur. Quin maioris excommunicationis deiectione est abijciendus, cui sanctæ Ecclesiæ commissa fuerit disciplina, qui non solum iussionibus prælatæ sanctæ ecclesiæ parere debuit, sed etiā alijs ne preterirent insinuare. Sitq; alienus a diuinis & pontificalibus officijs, qui noluerit præceptis Apostolicis obtemperare.

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He hath alledged many matters agaynst the supremacy, but maliciously. Ye say that þ^e kyng in his Realme is supreme head of þ^e church. Well Syr, you will graūt me that there was a perfect Catholicke Church before any kyng was Christened. MarginaliaNote the worshipfull reasons of Doct. Story wherewith he proueth the Popes supremacie.Then, if it were a perfect Church, it must needes haue a head, which must nedes be before any kyng was member therof, for you know Constantinus was the first Christined kyng that euer was. And although you are boūd (as S. Paul sayth) to obey your rulers, and kynges haue rule of the people, yet doth it not folow that they haue cure of soules: for A fortiori, the head may do that the minister can not do: but the Priest may consecrate and the kyng cā not, therfore the kyng is not head.

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MarginaliaDoct. Story reasoneth as though to fede with the word, and to gouerne with the sworde, were all one.It was licēced by CHRIST to euery mā to bring into the shepefold, and to augmēt the flocke, but not to rule, for that was onely geuen to Peter.

And where the Apostles do call vppon men to obey their Princes, Cui Tributum, tributū, cui vestigal, vestigal  

: they perceiuyng that men were bent to a kynde of libertie and disobedience, were enforced to exhorte them to obedience & payment of their tribute: which exhortation extendeth onely to tēporall matters.

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And again, where you say that the Bishop of Rome maketh lawes contrary to þ^e lawes of the Realme, that is not true, for this is a maxime in the law: MarginaliaA maxime in the laweQuod in particulari excipitur, non facit vniuersale falsum.  

Now, as touchyng that monstrous talke of your conscience, that is no conscience ye professe: it is but priuata scientia, electio  

and secta.  

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Foxe text Latin

priuata scientia, electio ... secta

Foxe text translation

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Translation (Wade 2003)

one's own private knowledge, choice and conduct

And as yet for al your glorious bable, you haue not proued by Gods lawes that ye ought not to aunswer þ^e Popes holines.

The Canons which be receaued of all Christēdome compell you to aunswere, therfore you are bound so to