Marginalia1557. May.of the supper of the Lord truely ministred in both kyndes accordyng to the institution of Christ, vnto the worthy receauer, he eateth mistically by fayth the body and bloud of Christ. Thē I asked him if it were not the truth. And he sayd yes. Then sayd I, beare witnes of the truth.

Winc. Then the Bishop of Winchester, whose head beyng subtilest to gather vpon my wordes, sayd: My Lorde see you not how he creepeth away wyth hys heresies, and couereth them priuily? MarginaliaThe Sacrament of the altar no sacrament.Note how he here separateth the Sacrament of the aultar, from the supper of the Lord, meaning it not to be the true Sacrament, and also how he condemneth our ministration in one kind, MarginaliaThe wicked eate not the body of the Lord.and alloweth that the vnworthy receauer doth not eate and drinke the body and bloud of Christ: which be sore matters truely wayed, being couered very craftely with hys subtill shiftes of sophistry, but he shall aunswere directly or euer he depart.

Grat. My Lord, thys is but your gatheryng of my wordes, for you before confessed the same sayinges to be the truth, and this you catch at me, and fayne would haue a vauntage for my bloud: but seeing you iudge me not to meane the Sacrament of the aultar, now come to the probation of the same Sacrament, and proue it to be the true Sacrament, and I am with you: or els if you can proue your church to be þ^e true church, I am also wyth you.

But then he called to memory the last probation of þ^e church & Sacramentes, how he before was driuen to forsake the scriptures, and to shew me by good reason how they myght minister the Sacrament in one kynd: and hys reason was this: MarginaliaThe B. of Winchesters reason to proue the Sacramēt in one kinde.Like as a man or woman dyeth on a sodayne, and so when we haue geuen hym the body of Christ, in the meane tyme the party dieth, and so he eateth the body of Christ, and not drynketh his bloud. And this was his simple shift in the prouing of theyr Sacramentes: so that he was now halfe abashed to beginne that matter agayne.

But yet a little subtill shift he brought in, and sayd.

Winc. What sayest thou by the administration of the priestes euery day for themselues, and they minister in both kyndes?

Grat. To that I aunswered: you haue two administrations: for I am sure at Easter you minister but in one kynd, and therefore it is not according to the institution of Christ, but after your owne imaginations.

Winc. Why, then what sayest thou to these wordes: Take, eate, this is my body. These are the wordes of Christ. Wylt thou deny them?

Grat. My Lord, they are the wordes of scripture: I affirme them, and not deny them.

Rochest. Why, then thou doest confesse in the Sacrament of the aultar to be a reall presence, the selfe same body that was borne of the virgine Mary, and is ascended vp into heauen.

Grat. My Lorde, what do you meane? do you not also meane a visible body? for it can not be, but of necessity, if it be a reall presence, and a materiall body, it must be a visible body also.

MarginaliaThe Catholickes make a phantasticall body in the Sacrament.Winc. Nay, I say vnto thee, it is a reall presence, and a materiall body, and an inuisible body to.

Grat. My Lord, then of necessity it must needes be a phantasticall body, for if it should be materiall, and inuisible as you affirme, then it must needes be a phantasticall body: for it is apparant that Christes humaine body was visible, and sene.

Winc. Then the Bishop brake out and sayd: when diddest thou see him? I pray thee tell me.

Grat. To that I aunswered and sayd: a simple argument it is. Because our corporall eyes cannot comprehend Christ, doth that proue or folow, that he is inuisible, because we can not see him?

Winc. And with that the bishop began to waxe wery of his argument, and remoued his talke to Iudas in eating the sacrament, and sayd: he eate him wholy, as

the Apostles did.

Grat. And then I asked him, if he ment Christes flesh and bloud the which he speaketh of in the vj. of Iohn, and sayth: he that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my bloud, hath eternall life in me.

Winc. To that he aunswered, and sayd, yea.

Grat. MarginaliaIf the wicked do eate þ^e body of Christ, they must needes be saued. And if Infantes eate hym not, they must be condemned by the Popes doctrine.Then said I, of necessitie Iudas must nedes be saued, because he eate the flesh, and dranke the bloud of Christ, as you haue affirmed, & also all the vngodly that die without repentaunce, because they haue eaten your sacrament, which you say is the flesh and bloud of Christ: therfore of necessitie they shall receaue the benifite therof, that is, eternall life. Which is a great absurditie to graunt, and then of necessitie, it must follow, that all that eate not, and drinke not of your sacrament, shall finally perish & be damned: for Christ saith: except you eate my flesh, and drinke my bloud, you can haue no life in me. And you haue afore sayd, that your sacrament is the same flesh and bloud that Christ speaketh of, and here I proue, that all children then, that dye vnder age to receaue the sacrament, by your owne argument, they must be damned, which is horrible blasphemy to speake. Now here I turne your owne argument vpon you: aunswere it if you can.

Winc. My Lord, doo you not see what disceatfull argumentes he bringeth in here agaynst vs, mingled with sophistrie, and kepeth himselfe in vauntage, so that we can get no holde vpon him. But I say vnto thee, thou peruerse hereticke, I see now, thou art a peruerse fellow. I had a better opinion of thee, but now I see we loose our tyme about thee, yet I aunswere thee: S. Paul doth open the sixt of Iohn playne, if thou wilt see, for he sayth: they eate Christes body, and drinke his bloud vnworthely, and that was the cause of their damnation.

Grat. My Lord, take hede you doo not adde vnto the text,MarginaliaFalsehoode in alleaging the Scriptures. for he that addeth vnto the text, is accursed of god, and I am sure here you haue brought more then Paul hath spoken, for he sayth not, because they haue eaten his body and drunke his bloud vnworthely, but Saint Paul sayth: who so euer shall eate of this bread, and drinke of the Cuppe vnworthely, shall be gilty of the body and bloud of Christ. Note my Lord, he saith not as you haue affirmed, but cleane contrary. MarginaliaThe Byshops fayled of theyr purpose, and in a rage.And with that they all were in a great rage.

Winc. And the bishop of Winchester sayd, I belyed the texte.

Grat. And then I called for the texte.

Winc. And he sayd, I asked thee euen now if thou vnderstoodest latin, and thou saydst whether I can or no, the people shall beare witnes in english.

Grat. And so I called agayne for the testament, whether it were lattin or english for the triall of the texte.

Winc. And then the B. of Winchester saw that I cared not, whether of the translations I had, he stoode vp thinking to begyle some simple mā þ^t had a booke there, and bad him that had an english testament to bring it in, that he might get some hold at him that should bring a testament, MarginaliaNo Englishe Testament durst bee brought forth.but God disapoynted him therof, and so he flue away from his matter, and began to rayle vpon me, and sayd my subtill argumentes should not serue, for if I would not aunswere directly, I should neuertheles be excommunicated: for (sayd he) I see a madde toye in thine head: thou gloriest much in thy talke, and thinkest now the people are come about thee, that thou shalt encourage them with thy constant hereticall opinon. MarginaliaThe B. of Winchester reproued of Gratwicke in hys sermon.For the last day whē thou wast before me vpon sonday in S. Mary Oueries church, þ^u there reprouedst my sermō, & haddest a thousand by thee at þ^e least, to bid God strengthen thee: MarginaliaThe B. of Winchester threatneth thē þ^t prayeth to God to strengthen Gratwicke.but now let me see him here that dare open his mouth to bid God strengthen thee: he shall dye the death that thou shalt dye.

Grat. To that I aunswered: my Lord I know your crueltie doth extend more largelyer then your pitie. Good experience so I haue to say, for you keepe men in