MarginaliaAn. 1557. Iune.Auns. Then I sayd: you haue to shew where & what my wordes were: and hereof we talked a great while.

Bish. At the last þ^e bishop was so angry, that he charged me in the Kinges, Queenes, & Cardinals name before the Mayor and his brethren, taking thē to witnes, if I did not say yea or nay, he would condemne me.

Auns. Then I sayd: seing you haue nothing to accuse me of, wherfore should I so aunswere?

Arch. Then the Archdeacon said, I was giltie: & said I was like a thiefe at the barre, which would not confesse his fault because his accusers were not present: with a great many wordes, and would not let me open my mouth agaynst him.

Auns. Then I saw whereabout they went, graūting to answere thē by the word, or els I thinke they would haue condemned me for holding of my peace: and this was my beginning: MarginaliaMat. Plaise confesseth hys minde of the Sacrament.I beleue that Christ tooke bread, and when he had geuen thankes, he brake it, and gaue it to his disciples, & sayd: take, eate, this is my body which is geuen for you, this do in remembrance of me.

Arch. Dost thou beleue that Christ ment euen as he sayd?

Auns. I sayd, Christ was no dissembler, but spake the very truth.

Arch. Thou hast very wel said: we will make the best of thy wordes. Thē he praysed me with many wordes, going about to proue it his body reall & substātiall, and said: Christ called himself bread: and this to proue, whē Christ sayd: this is my body, the bread was his body, said he, in dede, reall & substantiall, not so long & so big as it houng on þ^e crosse, as the CapernaitesMarginaliaCapernaicall doctrine. did thinke: but we eate it, as mans weake nature can eate Christ. Therfore when he had sayd: this is my body, the bread was his body in very deede.

Auns. Then I asked him, what Christ ment by these wordes: which is geuen for you?

Arch. He sayd: Christ spake that by the bread also, but it was not writtē in Mathew, but Luke had those wordes.

Auns. Thē I asked him, if Christes body were made of bread, that was geuen for our redemption, or whether the bread was crucified for vs, or not?

Arch. Then he said: no by saint mary, I say not so.

Auns. You haue said the truth in dede, and euen as I beleue.

Arch. Thē he stoode vp with a great many of words & said: þ^t I did thinke it but bare bread still, as other bread is: MarginaliaChrist called it hys body: Ergo, he made it hys body MarginaliaIt followeth: For a thyng may be called, and yet no nature chaūged.but he was sure Christ called it his body, and then it was his body in dede, for he would beleue Christ.

Auns. When he had spoken his pleasure by me, thinking to haue condēned me by their law, I sayd: he had not Iudged right of me, for I had not so spoken, but did beleue the wordes of Christ as well as he, and as much as he could proue by the word.

Arch. Then he would heare what I did say it was.

Auns. I sayd, I did beleue it was that he gaue them.

Arch. Then he asked me, what it was that he gaue them.

Auns. I sayd, that which he brake.

Arch. Then he asked me, what was that he brake?

Auns. I sayd, that he tooke.

Arch. What was it that he did take?

Auns. I sayd the text sayeth, he tooke bread.

Arch. Well, then thou sayest it was but bread that his disciples did eate, by thy reason.

Auns. Thus much I say: looke what he gaue them, they did eate in deede.

Arch. Why, then was not that his body that they did eate?

Auns. It was that which he brake.

Arch. Well sayd he, I perceaue thy meanyng well inough, for thou doest thinke it is but bread still, and that he was not able to make it his body.

Auns. That is your exposition vpon my minde.

Arch. Then sayd he, what didest thou receaue when thou didest receaue last?

Auns. I sayd, I do beleue, that I did eate Christes flesh, and drinke his bloud. For he sayth: my fleshe is meate in deede, and my bloud is drinke in deede.

Arch. Then he sayd, I had well aunswered, thinkyng to haue had some aduauntage at my hand, and prayed me to tell hym, how I did eate hys flesh and drinke his bloud.

Auns. Then I sayd, I must aūswere you by the word. Christ sayth: He that eateth my fleshe, and drinketh my bloud, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

Arch. Then hee faced out the matter with sophistry, and sayd, I did eate Christ, as that Church was in his eye, with many such like mockes, but would not let me aunswere one word.

Commis. Then þ^e Cōmissary did aske me, if I did not remēber S. Paul, which did rebuke the Corinthes for their euill behauiour, & because they made no differēce of þ^e lordes body, & brought in to proue his matter how he called him selfe bread in þ^e vj. of Iohn. So Paul saith: So oft as ye eate of this bread (meanyng Christes body) vnworthely, ye eate and drinke your owne damnation, because ye make no difference of the Lordes body. MarginaliaFalse alleaging the Scriptures.For thus sayth Christ: The bread that I will geue you is my fleshe. Now, it is no bread, but it is his flesh. And thus he alledged euery Scripture false to make vp the matter.

Auns. Then I sayd, I did beleue the wordes of Paul very wel, euen as he had spoken thē. For thus he saith: He that eateth and drinketh vnworthely, eateth and drinketh his owne damnation, because he maketh no difference of the Lordes body.

Commis. What is the cause that he eateth his owne damnation?

Auns. I sayd, S. Paul declareth it plainly with these wordes: If ye had iudged your selues, ye should not haue bene iudged of the Lord.

Arch. Then the Archdeacon sayd, he marueled why I would not say, that he called the bread his body, seyng Cranmer, Ridley, and Latymer with many other, MarginaliaThey sayd that Christ called it his body: but they sayd not, that it was hys body.said he called it his body.

Auns. I sayd, you haue condemned them as heretickes, and you would haue me say with them, because you would kill me.

Arch. Thē he sayd: In that they sayd it was his body, they did say the truth.

Auns. I asked wherfore they were killed, seyng they sayd the truth?

Bysh. Then sayd the Bishop, that he had all their aunsweres, and that they did not beleue as they sayd. For they sayd, Christ called it his body, but it was not his naturall body: but thou shall aunswere me by and by, whether it be his body or not, or els I will anger thee.

Auns. Then I sayd: I had aūswered him by the word already, and did beleue it also: therefore if he did condemne me for that, my life was not deare vnto me, & I was sure he should not scape vnpunished: for God will be reuenged vpon such murtherers.

Arch. Thē the Archdeacon intreated me to be ruled by him, and take mercy while it was offered: for if I were condemned, I must needes be burned. Yet he would not say but my soule might be saued: with many mo wordes, & desired me that I would beleue him, for hee woulde speake the truth, beginnyng how Christ fed fiue thousand with foure loaues, and how he turned þ^e water into wyne: euen so Christ tooke bread, and blest it, and when he had done, he brake it, and sayd: This is my body, and then he commaunded them to eate it, and therfore it must nedes be his body.

Auns. Then I desired him to speake the text right or els I would not beleue him.

Arch. Then he stode vp and put of his cap and thanked me for teachyng of him, and sayd: I was a stubborne felow, and toke scorne to be taught.