Marginalia1557. Iune.am none of your Dioces: Wherefore I will not aunswere to you.

VVinc. Thou art within my dioces, and thou hast offended within my dioces: and therefore I will haue to doe with thee.

Wood. Haue to do with me and you wyll: but I wil haue nothing to do with you, I tell you playnely: MarginaliaRichard Woodmā appealeth frō þ^e B. of Winchester, to hys owne Ordinary.For though I be now in your dioces, I haue not offended in your dioces: if I haue, shew me wherein.

VVinc. Mary here is thine owne hand writing the which thou affirmidst in my dioces.

Wood. I do not deny, but it is myne owne hand writing: but that proueth neuer the more that I haue offended in your dioces: for that doth but declare what talke there was betwixt þ^e commissioners and me, the which you haue nothing to doe withall.

VVinc. No? hold him a booke, and thou shalt sweare, whether thou holdest it now or not, and whether thou wrotest it not in my dioces, as I thinke thou didest. Lay thy hand on the booke.

Wood. MarginaliaWoodmā refuseth to sweare or answere before Winchest. being not hys Ordinary.I will not be sworne for you: for I am not of your dioces, and therfore you haue nothing to do with me. And as for the writing of that same, I neuer wrote word of it in your dioces.

Lang. No? did you not? my Lord let me see: I will finde where you wrote it.

Wood. Then he tooke it, and looked on it and anone he found that I was sent for out of the kinges bench, to come before the commissioners.

Lang. My Lord, here you may see, it was in the kings Bench, the which is in your Dioces.  

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The King's Bench prison was in Southwark which was part of the diocese of Winchester. Langdale is trying to argue that if Woodman wrote a heretical document in the diocese of Winchester, that he could be tried by the bishop of Winchester.

Wood. Although I were fet out of the kings Bench, that proueth not that I wrote it there, nor I did not, I promise you truely.

The fat Priest. Where wrote you it then?

Wood. Nay, I owe you not so much seruice to tell you: finde it out as well as you can: For I perceaue you go about to sheede my bloud.

Winc. It is no great matter where it was written: it is here, and he denieth not but he wrote it. You shall heare more of it. Here þ^e Cōmissioners asked you whether Iudas did eate any more then bare bread, and you aunswered, that he eate more then bare bread. Wherupon they sent you away backe to the Kinges Bench agayne, and asked you not what more, for the which cause (as you haue writtē here) you had a hell burning in your conscience. MarginaliaWoodmā in a great burning of conscience, for feare lest he had graunted to much to the Comissioners before, sayuing that Iudas did eate more then bare bread.For you had thought they would haue sent a discharge to þ^e Kinges Bench, and so let me goe (sayd you) and register my name in theyr bookes, that I had graunted that Iudas did eate the body of Christ, and so the Gospell should haue bene slaundered by me. For the which cause I was in such case, I could scantly eate, drinke, or sleepe for that space, as all my prisō fellowes can testify. If all you (I say) that goe to the Church of Sathan, and there heare the detestable doctrine, that they spit, & spue out in their churches, and Pulpittes, to the great dishonour of God, if all you (I say) that come there, had such a hell burning in your conscience for the tyme, as I had till I came before them agayne and had vttered my conscience, more playnely, I dare say you would come there no more. All thys is your writing, is it not? how say you?

Wood. I do not deny, but it was myne owne deede.

Winc. And I pray you, where is there such spitting and spuing out of false doctrine, as you speake of?

Wood. In the sinagog of Sathan, where God is dishonoured with false doctrine.

Winc. And I pray you, where is one of them?

Wood. Nay, that iudge your selfe: I came not hether to be a iudge.

Winc. Wel, here you haue affirmed that Iudas (your maister) eate more then bread: but yet he eate not the body of Christ, as you haue declared by your wordes. For you had a hel burning in your conscience, because you were in doubt, that the cōmissioners vnderstoode

by your words that Iudas had eatē the body of Christ, because you sayd, he eate more then bread. Therefore thou haddest a great sort of Deuils in thee, for in hell be many Deuils: and therefore the Deuill, and Iudas is thy maister, by thine owne wordes.

Wood. Nay, I defie Iudas, and the Deuill, and hys seruauntes: for they be your maisters & you serue thē, for any thing that I can see, I tell you truth.

VVinchest. Nay, they be thy masters. Marginalia The Bishops Argument.
The deuill is maister in hell.
Woodman felt a burning hell in hys conscience:
Ergo, the deuill was Woodmās maister.Marginalia☞ Aunswere.
Hell is taken in Scripture two waies: eyther for the place where damned spirites and soules bee tormented for euer out of thys lyfe: or els for Gods correction and anguishe of the soule in thys lyfe, which sometyme is felt so sharpe, that it is resembled to hell it selfe. As where we read: The Lorde bringeth to hell, and bringeth out againe. &c. Tob. 13. The paines of hell haue found me. &c. Psal. 114.For the Deuill is maister where hell is, and thou saydest thou hadst a hell burning in thee. I pray thee tel me, how thou canst auoyde it but that the deuil was in thee by thyne own saying.

Wood. The hell that I had, was the louing correction of God towarde me, to call me to repentaunce, that I should not offende God and his people in leauing thinges so darke, as I left that. For the which cause, my conscience bare me record I had not done well, as at all times I haue felt the sting of it when I haue broken the commaundementes of God by any meanes, as all Gods people doo, I dare say, and it is the louing kindnes of God towardes them, to druie them to repentaunce. But it is to be thought that your conscience is neuer troubled, how wickedly so euer you doo. For if it were, it would not be so straunge to you as you make it, which declareth playnly whose seruant you be.

VVinchest. What a naughty fellow is this? This is such a peruerse villaine as I neuer talked withall in all my life. Holde him a booke. I wil make him sweare, to aunswere directly to such thinges, as I will demaūd of him: and if he will not aunswere, I will condemne hym.

Wood. Call you me a fellow? I am such a fellow I tel you, that will driue you all to hell if you consent to the sheeding of my bloud, & you shall haue bloud to drinke, as sayth S. Iohn in his Reuelation the ix. chap. and being in hell, you shall be compelled to say for payne of conscience: MarginaliaSap. v.this is the man that we had in derision, and though his life madnes, and his ende to be without honour: but now we may see how he is counted among the Saintes of God, and we are punished. This shall you say in hell, if you repent it not, if you doo condemne me. This you shall finde in the fifte chapter of the booke of wisedome: and therefore take heede what you doo, I geue you counsell.

VVin. Wisdome? what speakest thou of wisdom? thou neuer haddest it: for thou art as very a foole as euer I heard speake.

Wood. Doo you not know, that the foolish thinges of this world must confound the wise thinges?Marginaliaj. Cor. j. Wherfore it greueth me not to be called a foole at your hand.

VVin. Nay, thou art none of those fooles: thou art an obstinate foole, and an heretike. Lay hand on the booke, and aunswere to such things as I will lay against thee.

Wood. I will not lay hand on the booke for none of you all. MarginaliaRichard Woodman agayne refuseth to sweare or answere before the Byshop, being not his Ordinary.You be not my bishop, and therfore I will haue nothing to doo with you.

Winchest. I will haue to doo with you. This man is without law: he careth not for the King nor Queene, I dare say, for he will not obey theyr lawes. Let me see the Kinges commission. I will see whether he will obey that or not.

Wood. I would you loued the King and Queenes maiesty no worse then I do, if it pleased God: You would not doo as you doo then.

Winchest. Hold him a booke, he is a ranke hereticke.