Marginalia1558.ged on the Crosse, was dead and buryed, and descended into hell, & rose agayne on the third day, and ascended to heauen, and sitteth at the right hand of God. The same body whē the Priest hath spoken þe wordes, commeth downe, & when the Priest lifteth vp his body on this wise (he liftyng vp his handes) sayd there it is.
[Back to Top]Eliz. I haue told you also how I do beleue.
Mart. Away with her.
Cholmley. Ah euill fauoured whore, nothyng but spirite and faith whore?
Mart. Away with her, we haue more to talke withall.
Then was she caryed into the Colehouse, and searched for bookes, MarginaliaElizab. Young caried to the Stockhouse.and then put into the stockehouse, and her knife, gyrdell, and aporne, taken from her.
MarginaliaThe fifth examination of Elizabeth Young.THen was she brought out of the stockehouse and brought before the Byshops Chauncellour, who required of her, what age she was of.
Eliz. Syr, forty yeares and vpwardes.
The Chauncellour. Why, thou art a woman of fayre yeares: what shouldest thou medle with þe Scriptures? it is necessary for thee to beleue, and that is inough. It is more fit for thee to medle with thy distaffe, then to medle with the Scriptures. What is thy beliefe? I would heare it: for it can not be good, in that thou art brought into prison.
[Back to Top]Eliz. MarginaliaElizabeth Young offereth againe to declare her beliefe.Syr, if it will please you to heare it, I will declare it vnto you. But I pray you that you will take your pen and write it, & then examine it: and if ye find any thyng therin that is not for a Christian woman, then teach me better, and I will learne it.
[Back to Top]Chaunc. Well said. But who shall be Iudge betwene thee and me?
Elizab. The Scripture.
Chaunc. Wilt thou stand by that?
Eliz. Yea Syr.
Chaunc. Well, go thy way out at the doore a litle while, for I am busie, & I will call for thee anone agayn.
Then he called me agayne and sayd, now woman, the tyme is to long to write. Say thy minde, and I will beare it in my head.
Then Elizab. began & declared her faith to him, as she had done before the Byshop.
Chaunc. Woman, spirite and faith I doe allow, but doest not thou beleue that thou doest receiue the body of Christ MarginaliaReally. Corporally. Substantially.really, corporally, and substantially?
Elizab. These wordes really and corporally, I vnderstand not: as for substantially, I take it ye meane I should beleue that I should receiue his humaine body (which is vpon the right hand of God, and can occupy no mo places at once) and that beleue not I.
Chaunc. Thou must beleue this or els thou art dāned.
Eliz. Syr, can ye geue me beliefe or faith?
Chaunc. No, God must geue it thee.
Eliz. God hath geuen me no such faith, or beliefe.
The Chaūcellor thē declared a text of S. Paul in Latin, and then in English, saying I could make thee beleue, but that thou hast a cankered hart, and will not beleue. Who then can make thee to beleue?
Eliz. You said euen now, MarginaliaFayth cōmeth of God:
Ergo, no vntruth is to be beleued.that faith or beliefe commeth of God, and so beleue I, and then may not I beleue an vntruth to be a truth.
Chaun. Doost thou not beleue that Christes flesh is fleshe in thy fleshe?
Eliz. No Sir, I beleue not that, for my fleshe shall putrify and rotte.
Chaun. Christ said: my flesh is flesh in fleshe. MarginaliaChrist is flesh of our flesh, but not in our fleshe.
Eliz. Who so receiueth him fleshly, shall haue a fleshly resurrection.
Chaun. Christ sayth in the sixt of Iohn: MarginaliaIohn. vj.My flesh is meate in deede, and my bloud is drinke in deede.
Eliz. Christ preached to the Capernaites saying: Except ye eate the flesh of the sonne of man and drinke hys
bloud, ye shall not haue life in you, and the Capernaites murmured at it. His disciples also murmured, saying among themselues: This is an hard saying, and who can abide it? Christ vnderstoode their meanyng, and sayd: Are ye also offended? will ye also go away? What and if ye shall see the sonne of man ascend vp to heauen from whence he came? will that offend you? It is the spirite that quickneth: the flesh profiteth nothing. I pray you Sir, what meaneth Christ by that?
[Back to Top]Chaun. O God forbid. MarginaliaThys man dare not expound the Scripture, yet he dare iudge vpon heresie.Would ye haue me to interprete the scriptures? We must leaue that for our olde auncient fathers, which haue studied the Scriptures a long time, and haue the holy ghost geuen vnto them.
Eliz. Why Syr, haue ye not the holy ghost geuen and reueled vnto you?
Chaun. MarginaliaThe Papistes dare not assure them selues to haue the holy ghost.No, God forbid that I should so beleue: but I hope, I hope: But ye say, ye are of þe spirite. Will you say that ye haue no profite in Christes flesh?
Eliz. Sir, we haue our profite in Christes flesh, but not as the Capernaites did vnderstand it: MarginaliaThe Capernaites fayth.for they vnderstoode that they must eate his fleshe as they did eate oxe flesh and other, and drinke his bloud as we drinke wine or beere out of a bole. But so we must not receiue it. But our profite that we haue by Christ, MarginaliaThe place of Iohn. cap. vj. expounded how Christes fleshe is meate.is to beleue that his body was broken vpon the crosse & his bloud shed for our sinnes. This is þe very meaning of Christ that so we should eate his flesh and drinke hys bloude, when he sayd: My flesh is meat in deede, and my bloud is drinke in deede.
[Back to Top]Chaun. How doth thy body liue if Christes flesh be not flesh in thy fleshe?
Eliz. Syr, I was a body before I had a soule: which body God had created, and yet it could not liue till God had breathed lyfe into me, and by that life doth my body lyue. And when it shall please God to dissolue my lyfe, my flesh will offer it selfe vnto the place frō whence it came, and through the merites of Christ my soule will offer it selfe to the place from whence it came.
[Back to Top]Chaunc. Yea, but if thou do not beleue that Christes flesh is flesh in thy flesh,MarginaliaChristes fleshe is fleshe in our fleshe, say the Papistes. thou canst not be saued.
Eliz. Syr, I do not beleue that.
Chaunc. Why? doth not Christ say: my flesh is meate in deede, and my bloud is drinke in deede? Canst thou deny that?
Eliz. I deny not that: for Christes flesh and bloud is meate and drinke for my soule,MarginaliaChristes fleshe is meate for our soule, say the Christians. the foode of my soule. For who so euer beleueth that Iesus Christ the sonne of God hath dyed and shed his bloud for his sinnes, his soule fedeth thereon for euer.
[Back to Top]Chaunc. When thou receauest the sacrament of the aultar, doost thou not beleue that thou doost receaue Christes body?
Eliz. Syr, when I do receaue the sacrament which Christ did institute and ordayne the night before he was betrayed, and left among his disciples, as often (I say) as I receaue it, I beleue that, spiritually and by fayth I receaue Christ. MarginaliaIn the Sacrament ministred and receaued according to Christes institution, we receaue Christ.And of thys Sacrament I know Christ him selfe to be the author and none but he. And this same Sacrament is an establishment to my conscience, and an augmenting to my fayth.
[Back to Top]Chaunc. Why? did not Christ take bread and gaue thankes, and brake it, and gaue it to his disciples, and sayd: Take, eate, this is my body that is geuen for you? did he geue them his body or no?
Eliz. He also tooke the cup, and gaue thankes to hys father, and gaue it vnto hys disciples, saying: drinke ye all hereof: for this is the cuppe of the new testament in my bloud, which shalbe shedde for many. MarginaliaOne question solued by an other.Now I pray you Syr let me aske you one question: Did he geue the cup the name of his bloud, or els the wine that was in the cuppe?
[Back to Top]Then was he very angry and said: doost thou thinke that thou hast an hedge Priest in hand?
Eliz. No Syr, I take you not to be an hedge Priest. I take you for a Doctor