MarginaliaAn. 1558.Chaunc. So me thinketh: thou wilt take vpon thee to teach me.
Eliz. No Syr. But I let you know what I know: and by argument one shall know more.
MarginaliaThe Sacrament a witnes both of Christes death and of his comming againe.Christ sayd: as oft as ye do this, do it in the remēbraunce of me: but a remēbraunce is not of a thing presēt, but absent. Also S. Paul saith: So oft as ye shall eate of this bread, and drinke of this cuppe, ye shall shew forth the Lordes death vntill he come. Thē we may not looke for him here vntill his cōming agayne at the latter day. Againe, is not this article of our beliefe true: he sitteth at the right hand of God the father almighty: from thence he shall come to iudge the quicke and the dead? but if he shall not come before he come to iudgemēt, then how is he here present in your sacrament of the aultar? MarginaliaChristes body occupieth but one place at once.Wherfore I beleue that the humane body of Christ occupieth no more but one place at once, for when he was here, he was not there.
[Back to Top]MarginaliaThe sixt examinatiō of Eliz. Young.WHo sayd vnto her: womā, the last time that thou wast before me, our talke was concernyng the Sacrament.
Eliz. Syr, true it is, and I trust that I sayd nothyng that ye can deny by the Scriptures.
Chaunc. Yes, MarginaliaThe fleshly reason of the Papistes.thou wilt not beleue that Christes flesh is flesh in thy flesh.
Eliz. No Syr, God hath geuen me no such beliefe, for it cā not be found by the Scriptures.
Chaunc. Wilt thou beleue nothing but what is in the Scripture? why, how many Sacramentes doest thou finde in the Scripture?
Eliz. The Church of Christ doth set forth twaine.
Chaunc. I will as well find seuen by the Scripture, as thou shalt find twayne.
Eliz. Syr, I talke not to you therof, but I say that the MarginaliaName of Sacramentes geuen by the Church.Church of Christ setteth out twaine, and I haue bene taught no more.
Chaunc. What are those twaine?
Eliz. MarginaliaTwo Sacramentes.The Sacrament of Christes body & bloud, and the Sacrament of Baptisme.
Chaunc. MarginaliaWedlocke.What sayest thou by the Sacrament of wedlocke?
Eliz. I haue not heard it called a Sacrament, but the holy estate of Matrimony, which ought to be kept of all men that take it vpon them.
Chaunc. MarginaliaPriestes mariage.How sayest thou by Priestes? is it good that they should Mary: is it to be kept of them?
Eliz. I come not hether to reason any such matters, for I am no Diuine: and also it is no part of my faith.
Chaunc. Can ye not tell? ye shall tell or euer ye go.
Eliz. Syr, then must ye keepe me a good while, for I haue not studied the Scriptures for it.
Chaunc. No? Why, ye will not be ashamed to flie vnto the highest mystery euen to the Sacrament, at the first dash, and ye are not afeard to argue with the best Doctour in the land.
Eliz. Gods mysteries I will not medle with, but all thinges that are written are written for our edificatiō.
Chaunc. MarginaliaPraying for the dead.What say ye by prayer for the dead? is it not meete that if a mans frend be dead, his frend commend his soule vnto God?
Eliz. There is no Christian man that will commend his frend nor yet his foe, vnto the deuill. And whether it be good for him, when he is dead or no, sure I am, that it is good when he is aliue.
Chaun. MarginaliaPurgatory.Then thou allowest not prayer to be good for them when they be dead, and lying in Purgatory. Is it not mete that prayer be made vnto God for them?
Eliz. Syr, I neuer heard in þe Scripture of Purgatory, but in the Scripture I haue heard of heauen & hell.
Chaunc. Why, ye haue nothing but the skymyng of the Scriptures. Our aūcient fathers could find out in the bottome of the Scriptures, that there is a Purgatory. Yea they could find it in the new Testament that
a Priest shall take the Sacrament and go to the altar and make an oblationMarginaliaOblation for þe dead. and offer it vp euery day.
Eliz. Syr, that could neuer be found in the Bible nor Testament, as for as euer I could here.
Chaunc. Whom doost thou heare read either the Bible or Testament, but a sort of Schismatickes, baudie Bishops, and hedge Priestes (which haue brought into the Church a stinkyng Cōmunion,MarginaliaThe holy Cōmunion blasphemed. which was neuer heard of in any place in the world, but here in Englād) which haue deceaued the kyng and all the nobilitie, and all the whole Realme.
[Back to Top]Eliz. Syr, it is a vyle name that ye geue them all.
Chaunc. Where are all the hedge knaues become now, that they come not to their aunswere? MarginaliaSo many Martyrs haue bene slaine, and yet the Papistes bragge, as though none will come forth to answere them
Eliz. Aunswere Syr? why, they haue aunswered both with the Scriptures and also with their bloud, and then where were you that ye came not forth to aunswere in their tymes? I neuer knew none of you that were troubled but twayne, and that was not for Gods worde, it was for their disobedience.
Chaunc. No, I pray you? did ye not know that we were killed, hanged, burned, and headed?
Eliz. Syr, I neuer knew that any of you euer was either hanged, killed, burned, or headed.
Chaunc. No? did ye neuer heare that the Byshop of RochesterMarginaliaFisher B. of Rochester. lost his head for the supremacie of the Byshops of Rome?
Eliz. Then he dyed not for Gods word.
Chaunc. Well, thou wilt beleue nothyng but that which is written in Gods worde.MarginaliaNothing to be receaued to saluation but onely that which is found or founded in Scripture. Where canst thou finde the Sabboth day in the Scripture, by the name of the Sabboth? For the right Sabboth day I will proue to be Saterday. Or where canst thou finde the Articles of the Crede in the Scripture, by the name of the Articles? Or where canst thou find in the Scripture that Christ went downe into hell?
[Back to Top]Eliz. What place or part in the Scripture can ye find for to disproue any of these thinges?
Chaunc. What preist hast thou layne withall, that thou hast so much scripture? Thou art some Priestes woman I thinke, for thou wilt take vpon thee to reason and teach the best Doctor in all the land, thou.
Eliz. I was neuer yet Priestes wife nor yet Priestes woman.
Chaunc. Haue I touched your conscience?
Eliz. No Syr, ye haue not touched my consciente, but beware ye hurt not your owne.
Chaunc. Thou hast read a litle in the Bible or testament, and thou thinkest that thou art able to reason with a Doctor that hath gone to schole thirty yeares: and before God, I thinke if I had talked thus much with a Iew, as I haue done with thee, she would haue turned ere this tyme. But I may say by you as Christ sayd by Ierusalem, saying: MarginaliaBut we read not that Christ did draw them into prisons and condēned them to be burnt that would not come.O Ierusalem Ierusalem, how oft would I haue gathered thee together, euen as a hen gathereth her chickins, but thou wouldest not And so would we gather you together in one fayth, but ye will not: and therefore your owne bloud be vpon your owne heads, for I can do no more but teach you. MarginaliaElizabeth Young deemed an hereticke, because she beleueth all thinges written and agreable to the Scripture and nothing els.Thou art one of the rāckest heretickes that euer I heard, for thou beleuest no thing but what is in the scripture, and therefore thou art damned.
[Back to Top]Eliz. I do beleue al thinges written in the scripture, & all thinges agreeable with the scripture, geuen by the holy ghost into the church of Christ, set forth and taught by the church of Christ, and shall I be damned because I beleue the truth, and will not beleue an vntruth?
MarginaliaElizabeth Young had to the Stockhouse, and then to the Lollardes Tower.Then þe Chauncellor called þe keeper saying: Cluny take her away: thou knowest what thou hast to do with her, and so she departed and was brought againe to the stockhouse, and there she lay certayne dayes and both her handes manacled in one yron, and afterward was remoued into the Lollades Tower, and there she remayned, with both her feete in the stockes and yrons till the next tyme of examination.
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