ces, desyred to bee admitted to the examination of thys present matter, and wold examine the matter more fully, he complayned greatlye how vnwoorthye a thyng it was that they should be contemned or despised.

After many thinges spoken to thys end and effect, he passed ouer to the second part of hys Oration, declaring what it was that he required: not golde, nor siluer, neither precious stones, neyther prouinces nor kyngdoms, neyther a thyng hard to be done: MarginaliaPanormitane seketh to delay the proces agaynst the pope.but that onelye the delay of the sacred Councell was required, and that the fathers would stay in the processe against the pope, and in the conclusion and determination of matters whych are now in hand. Neyther should the delay be long, but only vntyll the returne of the Ambassadors frō Mentz, whom he knew well would returne very shortlye. That this was but a small matter, and to be graunted with small intreaty, because there was no daunger in it. And also it should seme iniurious, not to tary for the Ambassadours of the Princes which were then at Mentz, whē as they wer not absent for their own priuate cōmodity, but about the affaires of the common wealth, and the commodity of peace: neyther had he forgotten, that at their departure they had desyred, that during their absence, there shoulde bee nothyng renued concerning the matters of Eugenius.

MarginaliaThe iii. part of Panormitans oration.Then immediatly adioyning the thyrde part of hys Oration, wherefore thys delay was required, he concluded, that it was not required for the priuate commodity of any one man, but for a common wealth: not to cause any trouble or vnquietnes, but for the better examination of the matter, that all thynges myght passe wyth peace & quietnes, þ^t the matter might be so much þ^e more fyrme and stable, by how much it is ratified and allowed by the consent of many. And so he proceded to the last part of hys argument, requiring the fathers that they would consider and wey in their myndes the effect that would follow, if they should graūt or deny this request. For (sayth he) if ye shall denye this small peticion of the Princes, they all wyll be agreued therewith, and take thys repulse in ill part. They woulde saye, they are contemned of you, neyther wyll they be obedient vnto you, or receyue your decrees. In vayne shall ye make lawes except the Princes do execute them, and all your decrees shall be but vayne: yet would I thynke thys to be borne wythall, if I dyd not feare greater matters to ensue. MarginaliaPersuasions of Panormitane.What if they should ioyne them selues with Eugenius, who not onely desireth to spoyle you of your lyuinges, but also of your liues. Alas, what slaughter and murther do the eyes of my minde behold and see? Woulde God my opinion were but vayne. But if you do graunt and consent vnto their petitions, they will thincke them selues bound vnto you: they wyll receyue and embrace your decrees, and whatsoeuer you shall require of them shall be obtayned. They will forsake your aduersarye, they will speake euill of him and abhorre him: but you they wyll commend and prayse, you they wil reuerence: vnto you they wil wholy submit them selues, and then shal follow that most excellent fruit of reformation and tranquility of the church. And thus he required the matter to be respited on all partes. At the last he sayd, that except the Ambassadors of the Princes were heard, he had a protestation written, which he would commaunde to be read before them all.

MarginaliaThe prayse of Lodouicus the prothonotary.When Panormitan had made an end of his oration, Lodouicus the Prothonotary of Rome rose vp, a man of such singuler wit and memorye, that he was thought, not to be inferior vnto anye of the famous men afore time. Insomuch that he had alwayes in memory whatsoeuer he had heard or red, and neuer forgat any thing that he had seene. This man first commending Panormitane, sayd that he came but the daye before from the bathes, and that it seemed vnto hym a straungething which was now brought in question: wherein hee desired to heare other mens mindes, & also to be heard of others, and that those Prelates which were at Mentz should be taried for, to be presēt at the discussing of this matter, in the name and behalf of their Princes, which Prelates were men of great estimation, and the Orators of most mighty Princes.

MarginaliaBishops only to haue determining voyce in coūcells.He allowed also þ^e saying of Panormitane touching the voyces of the inferiours, that it semeth not to bee agaynst the truth, that onely Bishops should haue a deciding or determining voyce in Councels. And albeit that some in this disputation doo thinke that, which is written in the. xv. chapter of the Actes, to bee their force or defence: notwithstandyng he was nothyng moued therewith, nor tooke it to bee of any effect, albeit it was sayd: It semed good vnto the holy Ghost and to vs, where as both þ^e Apostles and the elders were gathered together: wherby it appeared, that þ^e others had a decidyng voyce with the Apostles. For he sayd, that there was no argument to be gathered of the Actes of the Apostles, whose examples were more to be meruailed at, then to bee folowed: and that it doth not appeare there, that the Apostles called the elders of duety, but that it is onely declared that they were there present: whereupon nothyng could be inferred. And that it seemed vnto him, that the inferiours in the Councel of Basill, were admitted to determine with þ^e Bishops but of grace & fauour onely, because the Byshops may communicate their authoritie vnto others. He alledged for testimonie, the Byshop of Cancen, a man of great authority, who would not suffer any incorporation or felowship of the meaner sorte, and therfore, neither any inferiour, neither him selfe, which as yet was not made Byshop, to haue any decidyng voyce in the Coūcell. Wherfore for somuch as the matter was waighty, which was now in hand, and that the Bishops spake agaynst it, he required the Councell that they would of necessitie stay and tary for the Ambassadours of the princes commyng from Mentz.

His Oration was somuch the more greuous, in that many were touched with his woordes, and specially in that pointe that he sayd, the Apostles were not to be folowed: for that all mē did impugne as a blasphemy. But here a man may meruaile, that a man of such excellency, alledged no more, or better matter. MarginaliaIt is no maruaile why he alledged no more, or better matters: for of noughtye Lether no man can make a good shoe. And note here how God withdraweth hys giftes when men dissemble and cloke the truth.But in this point the memory of the mā is to be pardoned, whiche did not willingly speake in this matter, and desired nothyng so much, as not to obtayne that whiche he entreated for. After him many other spake their minds, but all to this end that they might protract the tyme and deffer the conclusion of these matters.

Then Ludouicus the Cardinall Arelatensis, a man of marueilous constancy, and borne for the gouernaunce of generall Councels, gathering together the wordes of all the Oratours, spake in this wise: Most reuerend fathers, this is no new or straunge busines, nor begon today or yesterday. For it is now many weekes ago, since the conclusions were disputed vppon amongest the diuines, and sent vnto Mentz, and to all other partes of the worlde. After this, they were disputed vppon vi. dayes cōtinually, and fully discussed, and after that not without great delay approued by the deputies, MarginaliaTruth seeketh no corners.and as the truth seeketh no corners, so all thinges were done publikely and openly. Neyther can any man pretend ignorance, neither are the prelates or princes contemned: For we called all that were present at Basell, & exhorted all the rest for to be present. And for so much as mention is made of the most noble kyng of Castell: who is it that is ignoraunt, that the kings Oratours were there present. The bishop of Burgen and Ebrun, men of singuler learnyng and eloquence, and you also Panormitane your selfe, which here represent the person of the moste famous kyng of Arragon, were twise present your selfe