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K. Henry. 6. The Councell of Basill. The Bohemians.

MarginaliaThe Bohemians send vp to the councell other solemne ambassadours.to Norrenberg, where as besyde their entertainment of wyne and fyshe. xxij. horsemen accompanied them vnto Vlmes: from thence they of Vlmes broughte them vnto Biberacke, and Salgotia: there Iames Tuaches a knyghte receiuing them, brought them to Stockacum, and from thence the bandes of the Duke of Bauaria brought them vnto Schafhuse. There they taking ship þe fourth day of Ianuary, came vnto Basil the. ix. day of the same month. What were the names of these Ambassadors of the Bohemians, which were brought vp wyth. 300. horse, and how they were receiued at Basill, mencion is made before. pag. 778. MarginaliaThe oration of the Cardinall Iulian to the Bohemians
Vide supra. pag. 778.
When as they came vnto the Synode, Cardinall Iulian made an Oratiō, that whatsoeuer was in any place in doubt, the same ought to be determined by the autority of the councell, forsomuche as all men are bound to submit themselues to the iudgemēt of the holy church, which the generall councell doth represent. Which oration was not allowed of all the Bohemians. Thē Rochezanus made an oration, requiring to haue a day appointed when they shoulde bee heard, which was appointed the. xvi. day of the same moneth. MarginaliaThe fyrst article of the Bohemians, by the fyrst ambass.Vpō which day, Iohn Rochezanus hauing made his preface, began to propound the first article touching the Communion to be ministred vnder both kinds, and disputed vpon the same by the space of. iij. dayes, alwayes before noone. MarginaliaThe ii. article of the Boh. by the second ambass.Then Venceslaus the Thaborite disputed vpon the secōd article, touchyng the correction and punishing of synne, by the space of. ij. dayes. MarginaliaThe iii article of the Boh. by the thyrd ambass.After whom Vldaricuspriest of the Orphanes propounded and disputed vpon the thirde article by the space of two days, touching the free preaching of the word of God.

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MarginaliaThe fourth article of the Boh. by the fourth ambass.Last of all Peter Paine, an English man, disputed. iij. dayes the fourth article touching the ciuill dominion of the Clergy, and afterward gaue copies of their disputations in writing vnto the councell, with hartye thankes that they were heard. The three last did somwhat inuey against the Councell, commending Iohn Hus and Iohn VVicklief for their doctrine. Wherupō Iohn de Ragusio a Diuine, rising vp, desired that he might haue leaue to aunswere in his own name, to the first article of the Bohemians. The Councell consented thereunto: so þt by the space of. viij. days in the forenoone, he disputed therupō. MarginaliaThe oration of the Abbot of Sistertia offensiue to the Bohemians.But before he began to answer, Iohn þe abbot de Sistertia made an oration vnto the Bohemians, þt they should submit themselues to the determination of holy church, which this councell doth represent. This matter did not a litle offend the Bohemians. MarginaliaIohn Ragusinus replyeth agaynst the fyrst article.Iohn Ragusinus a diuine, after Scholers fashion: in his answer spake often of heresies and of heretickes. Procopius could not suffer it, but risyng vp with an angrye stomacke, complayned openly to the councell of this iniury. This our countrey man (saith he) doth vs great iniury, calling vs oftētimes heretickes. Wherunto Ragusinus answered: forsomuch as I am your countreyman both by toung and nation, I doo the more desire to reduce you agayne vnto the Church. He was a Dalmatian borne, and it appeareth that the Dalmatians goyng into Boheme, tooke theyr name by their countrey whiche they possessed. MarginaliaThe Bohemiās displeased with Ragusinus.It came almost to this pointe, that thorow this offence, the Bohemians woulde departe from Basil, and could scarslye be appeased. Certain of the Bohemians would not hear Ragusinus finish his disputation.

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MarginaliaEgidius Carlerius answereth agaynst the second article.After him, a famous Diuine, one Egidius Carlerius, Deane of the church of Cambrey, answered vnto the second article, by the space of. iiij. daies. MarginaliaHenry Coldyron answereth to the 3 article.To the thirde article answered one Henricus, surnamed Frigidum ferrū, three daies together. MarginaliaIohn Pollomarius answereth to the fourth article.Last of all, one Iohannes Pollomarius, maister of the requests of the pallace, answered vnto the fourth article likewise by the space of thre daies, so that the long time which they vsed in disputations, semed tedious vnto the Bohemians. Notwithstanding this answer, the Bohemians stil defended their articles,and specially the first, in so muche as Iohn Rochezanus did strongly impugne Ragusinus aunswer by the space of. vi. daies. But forsomuch as one disputatiō bred an other, and it was not perceiued how that by this meanes any concord could be made: the prince, William Duke of Bauaria, Protector of the councel, attempted an other remedy, that all disputations being set apart, the matter should be friendly debated.

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MarginaliaCertayne chosen on both sides to determyne the matter.There were certayne appointed on either part to intreate vpon the concord: who comming together the eleuenth day of March, those which wer appointed for the Councel, were demaunded to say their mindes. It seemeth goood, said they, if these men woulde be vnited vnto vs, and bee made one bodye with vs, that this bodye might then accord, declare, and determine all maner of diuersities of opinions and sectes, what is to bee beleued or done in them.

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The Bohemians, when they had a whyle paused, said: this way seemed not apte inough, except first of all, the foure articles were exactly discussed: so that either wee should agree with them, or they with vs. For otherwise it would be but a friuolous matter, if they nowe beyng vnited agayne, disagree in the deciding of the articles. Here answer was made by þe Bohemians, þt if they were rightlye vnited, and the ayde of the holye Ghoste called for, they shuld not erre in the deciding of the matter, forsomuch as euery Christiā ought to beleue that determination: which if they would do, it would breed a most firme & strong concord & amity on either part. But this answer satisfied thē not, in somuch þe other iij. rose vp & disputed against the answers which were geuē. At that time Cardinall Iulian President of the councel, made thys oration vnto the Bohemian Ambassadours.

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MarginaliaThe oratiō of Cardinal Iulian.This sacred Synode, sayth he, hath now by the space of ten daies, pacientlye hearde the propositions of your foure articles, and afterward he annexed: you haue propounded sayth he, four articles, but we vnderstand that beside these foure, you haue manye other straunge doctrines, wherein ye dissent from vs. Wherefore it is necessary, if that a perfect vnity and fraternity shal folowe betwene vs, that all these thinges be declared in the coūcel, to the end that by the grace of the holy Ghost, which is the autor of peace and truth, due prouision maye bee made therein. For we haue not gathered these thynges of light coniectures, but haue heard them of credible persons, and partly here are some present, which haue sene them with their own eyes in Bohem, and partly we do gather it by your owne reporte: MarginaliaNicolas the second propounder, charged by the Cardinall, for cōmanding of I. Wicklieffe.for mayster Nicolas, which was the second that did propoūd, amongest other thinges alledged, that Iohn VVickliffe was an Euangelicall Doctor. If ye beleue him to bee a true Doctor, it followeth þt you muste repute his workes as authentike: If ye do not so thinke, it is reason that it should be opened vnto vs.

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Wherefore we desyre you, that you wil certify vs vpon these and certayne other poyntes, what you do beleue, or what credite you do geue vnto thē. But we doo not require that you should now declare your reasons, but it shall satisfy vs, if you will answer vnto euery article by this word, Credimus aut non credimus: that is, we beleue or beleue not. Which if you will doo (as wee trust you will) then we shall manifestlye perceiue, that you desyre that we should conceyue a good estimation of you. If there be any thing, wherof you would be certified by vs, aske it boldlye, & we will geue you an aunswer out of hande: For we are readye according to the doctrine of saint Peter, to render accompte vnto euerye man which shal require it, touching the faith which we holde. MarginaliaA prudent aunswere of the Bohemians to the Cardinall Iulius.Hereunto the Bohemian ambassadours aunswered in fewe wordes, that they came onely to propounde those foure articles, not in their owne name, but in the name of the whole kyngdom of Boheme, & to speake no

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