Critical Apparatus for this Page
None
Names and Places on this Page
Unavailable for this Edition
1301 [1300]

K. Edward. 6. The ij. Session or appearaunce of before the Commißioners.

MarginaliaAnno. 1549. that was hanged and shed vpon the Crosse: he the same day at after noone, hauyng a great rablement with him of his damnable sect, openly in the Pulpit within my Dioces, dyd preach erroneously to the people agaynst it: and maliciously inueying agaynst my Sermon, denyed the veritie and presence of Christes true body and bloud to be in the same Sacrament, and also falsely and vntruely interpreted and expoūded my wordes. And specially, where I preached and affirmed þe very true body & bloud of our Sauiour Iesus Christ to be in the sayd Sacrament, the selfe same in substaunce that was hanged and shed vpon the Crosse:MarginaliaBoner rayleth agaynst M. Hooper. he lyke an Asse (as he is an Asse in deede) falsely chaunged and turned the word that into as, lyke an Asse, saying that I had sayd, as it hanged, and as it was shed vpon the Crosse.

[Back to Top]

MarginaliaTalke betwene the Archb. and Boner about the Sacrament. The Archbyshop hereupon perceauyng the Byshops drift, & hearyng him talke so much of the presēce of Christes body and bloud in the Sacramēt, sayd vnto him: My Lord of Lōdon, ye speake much of a presence in the Sacrament: what presence is there, and of what presence do you meane? Wherewith the Bishop beyng somewhat sturred and moued in mynde (as appeared by his collericke coūtenaūce) spake agayne to the Archbyshop very earnestly, and sayd: What presence my Lord? I say and beleue that there is the very true presence of the body and bloud of Christ. What beleue you, and how do you beleue my Lord? Vpon which wordes the Archbyshop, because he saw his aūswere darke and subtill, and mynding somewhat to nyp the grosse absurditie of the papistes,MarginaliaA question to Boner. asked him farther whether he were there, face, nose, mouth, eyes, armes, and lyps, with other liniamentes of his body? Wherat the Byshop shakyng his head, sayd: Oh, I am right sory to heare your grace speake these wordes, and therewith boldly vrged the Archbishop to shew his mynde therein. Who wisely waying the fond presumption of the partie, with the place and occasion of their assembly, refused then so to do, saying that their beyng there at that tyme, was not to dispute of those matters, but to prosecute their Commission cōmitted to them by their Prince, and therfore wyiled him to aūswere them vnto such thynges as were obiected agaynst hym.

[Back to Top]

Whereupon vnder his Protestation he requested to haue [illegible text] both of the Commission, and also of the denounciatiō geuen vnto him, with tyme to answere thereunto.MarginaliaDayes geuen to boner to aunswere for him selfe. Whiche the Cōmissioners wyllingly graunted, assignyng him there to appeare agayne before them vpon Friday at eight of the clocke before noone, then next followyng, and then to aunswere the tenour of the denounciation. And so for that day (he complaynyng somewhat of the shortnes of his tyme to answere) they all departed.

[Back to Top]
¶ The second appearaunce of Boner in the Chappell of Lambeth, before the Archbyshop and other foure Commissioners, the Byshop of Rochester, Secretary Peter, Secretary Smith, and the Deane of Paules.

MarginaliaThe second appearaunce of Boner before the kinges Commissioners. VPon Friday the xiij. of September aforenamed, foure Commissioners, associated then also with sir Thomas Smyth Knight the other of the kynges two principall Secretaries, and ioynt Commissioners with them, sat iudicially in þe Archbyshops Chappell within his house at Lābeth. Before whom (accordyng to their former assignemēt) there and then appeared the Byshop of London. To whom the Archbyshop in the name of the rest, first sayd: My Lord of London, the last tyme you were before vs, we layd certaine Articles and matter to your charge touchyng your disobedience to the kynges Maiestie, and you haue thys day to make your aunswere thereunto: wherefore now shew vs what you haue to say for your defence.

[Back to Top]

Whereunto the Byshop first askyng the Archbyshop if he had all said and done, and he agayne saying yea, made thys answere:MarginaliaBoners aūswere to the Archb. of Canterbury. My Lord, the last day that I appeared before you, I remember there sat in the kinges Maiesties cōmission, your Grace, you my Lord of Rochester, you M. Secretary Peter, and you M. Deane of Paules: but now I perceiue there sitteth also M. Secretary Smith. MarginaliaA precise point of the lawe, whether any new Commissioner may sit afterwarde, which satte not at the beginning. Who because he sat not at the beginning, nor tooke there the Commission vpon him, ought not so to doe: for by the lawe, they which begyn, must continue the commission.

[Back to Top]

Wherupon the Archbyshop first aunswered, that he was no lawyer, and therfore could not certeinely shewe what the law willeth in that case, but (sayth he) if the law be so in deede, surely I take it to be an vnreasonable law.

Well, said the Byshop, there be here that knoweth the law: and yet I say not this to the intent to stand or sticke much in this point with you, but to tell it you as it were by the way: for I haue here myne aunswere ready.

Then sayd Maister Secretary Peter to the Bishop: My Lord in good sooth I must say vnto you, that although MarginaliaThe wordes of Secretary Peter to Boner. I haue professed the law, yet by discontinuaunce and disuse therof, and hauing bene occupyed a long tyme in other matters from studye of the lawe, I haue perhappes forgotten what the law will do precisely in this point: but admit the law were so as you say, yet your selfe knoweth my Lord that this is our certayne rule in law, Quòd consuetudo est iuris interpres optimus, and I am sure you will, not nor cā not denye, but that the custome is commonly in this realme in all iudgementes and Commissions vsed to the contrary: and in very deed alltogether at the Court, hauyng the Commission presented vnto vs, take it vpon vs: and therfore for you to sticke in such trifling matters, you shall rather in my iudgement hurt your selfe and your matter, then otherwise.

[Back to Top]

Marginalia The aunswere of Boner to Secretarye Peter. Truely Maister Secretary (sayd the Byshop) I haue also of long while bene disused in the study of the law, but hauing occasion (partly by reason of this matter) to turne my bookes, I finde the law to be as I say: and yet (as I sayd) I tell you hereof but by the way, not mynding to sticke much with you in that point.

[Back to Top]

MarginaliaThe wordes of Secretary Smyth to Boner. At which wordes Maister Secertary Smith said also vnto the Byshop: well my Lord of London, as cunning as you make your selfe in the law, there be here that knoweth the law as well as you: and for my part I haue studied the law to, and I promise you these be but quiddites & quirkes inuented to delay matters, but our Commission is to proceede summarily, & de plano, and to cut of such friuolous allegations.

[Back to Top]

MarginaliaThe aunswere of Boner to Secretarye Smyth. Well, (sayd the Byshop agayne) looke well on your Cōmission, and you shall finde therein these wordes: to proceede according to the law and Iustice, and I aske both law and Iustice at your handes.

MarginaliaThe wordes of Secretary Peter Then Maister Secretary Peter willed hym to stand no more thereupon, but to proceede vnto hys aunswere. Wherupon he tooke forth a writing, wherein was conteined hys aunswere to the denunciation exhibited the day before by Latymer and Hooper, and deliuering it vnto the Archbyshop, sayd, that it was of his owne hand wryting, and for lacke of sufficient time written so hastely and coursely, that it could scarsely be read of any other, and therefore he desired to read it hymselfe: and so taking it agayne read it openly.

[Back to Top]

MarginaliaBoners writing exhibited to the Commissioners aunswering to the denunciation. Wherein first he alleaged (or rather shamelesly & sclaūderously cauilled) that those his denouncers were vile, infamed, and notorious criminous persons, and also open and manifest heretickes, aswell agaynst the rest of the Sacramentes of the Church, as chiefly agaynst the Sacrament of the aultar, and were for the same by the orders of the Church excommunicated and accursed, and were so taken of all the Catholickes of this Realme, and especially Hooper:MarginaliaExceptions layd by boner against M. Hoper hys denouncer. who besides other his poysoned doctrine and heresie amongest the people, had also before the time of the denunciation, made diuerse erroneous & hereticall bookes against the true presence of Christes body in the Sacrament of the aultar, & did also still continue in þe same, allowyng & maintaining it as good & Catholicke which bookes & doctrine (chiefly agaynst the Sacrament of the aulter) W. Latymer had and then likewise did allow, beleue, & teach, to þe losse of both their owne soules and also their beleuers, and therfore were not now or ought at any tyme to be admitted eyther in this their denunciation agaynst him, or in any other Iudiciall Acte: and that rather also, because that although they pretended in their denunciation, that they made not the same of any malice or euill will towardes hym, but for the good tranquilitie and quiet gouernaunce of thys Realme:MarginaliaThe friuolous quarelling of Boner agaynst his denouncers. yet was it notoriously knowen, that aswell the same day at after noone in which he the sayd Byshop preached at the Crosse of Paules, as also at sundrye other tymes, they two conspyryng wþt other of their faction, dyd maliciously and vnlawfully within his Dioces assemble together a great rablement of such as themselues were, and there vnder the coulour of reading, did openly rayle and inuey agaynst hym, not for any the causes pretended in their denunciation, but because he had in his Sermon declared (as the Catholicke Church taught) that in the sacrament of þe aultar there was the very true body & bloud of Christ, the same in substaunce that was hanged and shedde vpon the Crosse.

[Back to Top]

MarginaliaBoner put to a bare shift. Then after these vayne and friuolous allegations against the denouncers, he commeth and aunswereth to the substaunce of their denunciation, and sayth that where they in the same do falsely surmise that there were deliuered vnto him from the kyngs Maiestie, by the handes of the lord Protectour and the rest of hys highnes Counsayle, certayne Iniunctions and articles to be published and declared vnto the people at a day limited in the same, their information in such sort as it was deduced, was most false and vntrue, for that the Articles deliuered vnto him by Syr

[Back to Top]
Thomas