Marginalia1555. Iuly.Bradford. Yes Syr, quoth Bradford, I thinke it to be of S. Ambrose.

West. No, that it is not. And here Weston would haue layd a wager, and began to triumph, saying to Bradford: as you are ouerseen herein, so you are in the other thynges.

Bradford. Well Syr, I will not contend with you for the name. This (I remember) Saint Augustine writeth in his confessions.  

MarginaliaM. Bradford wrongfully charged with sedition.After this talke Westō begon to tell M. Bradford how þ^t the people were by him procured to withstand the Queene.

Whereunto Bradford aunsweryng agayne, bad hym hang him vp as a traytour, and a theefe, if euer he encouraged any to rebellion: whiche thyng his Keeper and others that were there of the Priestes, affirmed on his behalfe. So much talke there was to little purpose at that tyme. Doctour Weston declared moreouer how hee had saued men goyng in the cart to be hanged, and such like.

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The end was this, that Bradford should send vnto him, capita doctrinæ of the supper,  

and after Wednesday he would come vnto hym agayne, and thus departed he after that hee had dronken to him in beare and wyne. I omit here talke of Oxford, of bookes of Germane writers, of the feare of death and such other talke which are to no purpose.

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MarginaliaAn other disceptation or talke betwēe M. Bradford, and D. Pendleton.IN the meane tyme, whē Maister Bradford had written his reasons and argumentes & had sent them to Doctour Weston: in short space after about the xxviij. of Marche, there came to the Counter Doctour Pendleton,  

& with him the foresayd M. Collier, sometyme Warden of Manchester and Steuē Bech. After salutations Maister Pendleton began to speake to Bradford, that hee was sory for hys trouble. &c. And further (quoth he) after that I dyd knowe you could bee content to talke wyth me, I made the more speede, being as ready to do the good and pleasure that I can, as ye would wish.

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Bradford. Syr, the maner how I was content to speake with you, was on this sorte: Maister Bech was often in hand with me whom he should bryng vnto me, and named you amongest other: and I sayd that I had rather speake with you then with any of all the other. Now the cause why I so would, I will briefly tell you. MarginaliaPendelton once of the same religion with M. Bradford.I remember that once you were (as farre as man might iudge) of the Religion that I am of at this present, and I remember that you haue set forth the same earnestly. Gladly therfore would I learne of you what thyng it was that moued your conscience to alter, and gladly would I see what thyng it is that you haue seene sithen, which you saw not before.

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Pendleton. Maister Bradford, I do not know wherfore you are condemned.

Bradford. Transubstantiation is the cause wherefore I am condemned, and because I deny that wicked men receiue Christes body: wherein I would desire you to shewe me what reasons, which before you knew not, dyd moue your conscience to alter. For once (as I sayd) you were as I am in Religion.

Here Maister Pendleton halfe amazed, began to excuse himself if it would haue bene, as though he had not denyed fully transubstantiation in deede, although I sayd (quoth he) that the word was not in Scripture, and so hee made an endles tale of the thyng that moued hym to alter: but (sayd he) MarginaliaPendelton belike would study out the reasons that moued him to alter, for he had none ready to shew.I will gather to you the places which moued me, and send you them. And here he desired Bradford that hee might haue a copy of that whiche he had sent to Maister Weston: the which Bradford did promise him.

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Some reasonyng also they had, whether euill men dyd receyue Christes body, Bradford denying and Pendleton affirmyng. Bradford sayd that they receyued not the spirite. Ergo not the body: for it is no dead carkas. MarginaliaEuill men receiue not Christes body.Hereto Bradford brought also Saint Augustine, how Iudas receiued Panem Domini,  

and not Panem Dominum,   and how that MarginaliaHe must be in Christes body, that must receiue Christes body.he must be in Christes body, whiche must receaue the body of Christ. But Pendleton went about to put it away with idem, and not ad idem, and how that in Corpore Christi was to bee vnderstand of all that be in the visible Church with Gods elect. Bradford denyed this to be S. Augustines meanyng, and sayd also that the allegation of idem,   & not ad idem   could not make for that purpose. They talked more of transubstantiation, Pendleton bringing forth Cyprian: Panis natura mutatur. &c.   MarginaliaThe place of S. Cyprian expounded how the nature of bread is changed.And Bradford sayd that in that place natura dyd not signifie substaunce. As the nature of an herbe is not the substaunce of it: so the bread chaunged in nature is not to be taken for chaunged in substaunce: For now it is ordayned not for the foode of the body simply, but rather for the soule. Here also Bradford alledged the sentence of Gelasius.MarginaliaCyprian expounded by Gelasius. Pendleton sayd, that hee

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was a Pope.  

Yea sayd Bradford, but his fayth is my fayth in the Sacrament, if ye would receiue it.

They reasoned also whether accidentia were res or no. If they be properly res,  

sayd Bradford, then are they substaunces: and if they be substaunces they are earthly, and then are there earthly substaunces in the Sacrament as Ireneæus sayth, which must needes be bread. MarginaliaPendleton driuen to say that accidences be substance.But Pendleton sayd that the colour was the earthly thyng, and called it an accidentall substaunce.

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I omitte the talke they had of my Lorde of Canterbury of Peter Martyrs booke, of MarginaliaOf this letter, read before Pag. 1527.Pendletons Letter layde to Bradfordes charge when hee was condemned, with other talke more of the Church: whether Dic Ecclesiæ  

was spoken of the vniuersall church, or of a particular (whiche Pendleton at the length graunted to bee spoken of a particular Church): also of vayne glory, which he willed Bradford to beware of, and such like talke. A litle before his departyng, Bradford sayd thus: Maister Doctor, as I sayd to M. Weston the last day, so say I vnto you agayne, MarginaliaBradford could heare no reason of the Papistes to infirme his opinion agaynst transubstantiation.that I am the same man in religion agaynst transubstantiation still, which I was whē I came into prison: for hetherto I haue seene nothyng in any point to infirme   me. At which wordes Pendleton was somethyng moued, & sayd that it was no Catholicke doctrine. Yes, quoth Bradford, and that will I proue euen by the testimonie of the Catholicke fathers vntill Cōcilium Lateranense, or thereaboutes. Thus Pendleton went his way, saying that hee would come oftener to Bradford. God our father be with vs all, & geue vs the spirite of his truth for euer. Amen.

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¶ The same day in the after noone, about fiue of the clocke, came Maister Weston to Bradford: and after gentle salutations, he desired the company euery man to depart, and so they two sat downe. And after that he had thanked Bradford for his writyng vnto him, he pulled out of his bosome the same writyng, which Bradford had sent him. The writyng is this that followeth.

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MarginaliaTransubstantiation not brought into the church before the yeare 1215. by Pope Innocentius. 3.1. THat whiche is former (sayth Tertullian) is true: that whiche is latter is false. But the doctrine of transubstantiation is a late doctrine: for it was not defined generally afore the Councell of Laterane, about. 1215. yeares after Christes commyng, vnder Pope Innocentius the thyrd of that name. For before that tyme it was free for all men to beleue it or not beleue it, as the Byshoppe of Duresme doth witnesse in his booke of the presence of Christ in his Supper lately put forth: Ergo the doctrine of Transubstantiation is false.

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Three reasons prouing the wordes of the Lordes supper to be figuratiue.
1 Circumstances of scripture.
2 Proportion of Sacramentes.
3 Testimony of old Doctours.2. That the wordes of Christes Supper be figuratiue, the circumstaunces of the Scripture, the Analogie or proportiō of the Sacramētes, and the sentences of all the holy fathers, which were and did write for the space of one thousand yeares after Christes Ascension, do teach: whereupon it followeth, that there is no transubstantiation.

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3. That the Lord gaue to his Disciples bread and called it his body, the very Scriptures do witnesse. For he gaue that and called it his body which he tooke in his handes, whereon he gaue thankes, whiche also he brake, and gaue to his Disciples, that is to say, bread, as the fathers, Irenæus, Tertullian, Origene, Cypriā, Epiphanius, Augustine, and all the residue which are of antiquitie, do affirme: but in as much as the substaunce of bread and wyne is an other thyng then the substaunce of the body and bloud of Christ, it playnely appeareth that there is no transubstantiation.

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MarginaliaThe wine is not transubstantiate: Ergo, neither the bread.4. The bread is no more transubstantiate then the wyne: but that the wyne is not transubstantiate, S. Mathew, and S. Marke do teach vs: for they witnesse that Christ sayd that he would drinke no more of the fruite of the vyne, whiche was not bloud but wyne: and therfore it followeth, that there is no transubstantiation. Chrisostome vpon Mathew and S. Cyprian do confirme this reason.

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MarginaliaThe same spirit which sayth: This is my body: sayth also: We many are one bread and one body. &c.5. As the bread in the Lordes Supper is Christes naturall body, so is it his mysticall body: for the same spirite that spake of it: This is my body, dyd say also: for we many are one bread, one body. &c. but now it is not the mysticall body by transubstantiation, and therfore it is not his naturall body by transubstantiation.

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MarginaliaThe wordes doe not transubstantiate the cup into the new testament: Ergo neither the bread into the body.6. The wordes spoken ouer the cup in S. Luke and Paule, are not so mighty and effectuall as to transubstantiate it: For then it or that which is in it should be transubstantiate into the new Testament: therefore the wordes spoken ouer the bread are not so mighty as to make transubstantiation.

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7. All that doctrine whiche agreeth with those Churches which be Apostolicke, mother Churches, or originall churches, is to be counted for truth, in that it holdeth that which