MarginaliaAnno. 1555. October.he was contented then that hee shoulde speake. xl. and that graunt he would performe.
MarginaliaD. Weston shooteth his bolt.Then stepped forth D. Weston, which sat by & said: why my Lord he hath spoken fower hundred already.
M. Ridley confessed he had, but they were not of his prescribed number, neither of that matter. The bishop of Lincolne bad hym take his licence: Marginalia
B. Ridley limited no more but 40. words to speake.
Note reader the extreme dealyng of the Papistes.but hee shoulde speake but. xl, and he would tel them vpon his fingers, and eftsoones M. Ridley began to speake: but before he had ended halfe a sentence, the Doctours sittyng by cried and said, that his number was out, and with that he was put to silence.
After this the Bishop of Lincolne whiche sat in the middes, began to speake as foloweth.
Linc. Now I perceiue M. Ridley, you will not permit ne suffer vs to staie in that point of our Commissiō which we most desired: for I ensure you, there is neuer a worde in our commission more true then, dolentes & gemētes.
dolentes et gementes Not translated. grieving and sighing
Rid. I beleue it well my Lorde, for as muche as one day it will be burdenous to your soule.
Linc. Nay not so M. Ridley, but because I am sory to see suche stubbornes in you, that by no meanes you may be persuaded to acknowledge your errours, and receiue the truth: but seyng it is so, because you wil not suffer vs to persist in the first, we must of necessitie procede to the other part of our Commission. Therfore I pray you harken what I shal say, MarginaliaSentence of condemnation red against D. Ridley.& forthwith did read the sentence of condemnation, whiche was written in a long processe: the tenour of whiche because it is sufficiently already expressed before, pag. 1417. wee thought meete in this place to omit, for asmuche as they are rather wordes of course, then thinges deuised vpon deliberation. Howbeit in deede the effecte was, MarginaliaThe effect of the condemnation: Whereof read the tenour before pa. 1417.that for as muche as the saied Nic. Ridley did affirme, maintaine, and stubbornely defend certaine opinions, assertions and heresies, contrary to the word of God, and the receiued faith of the Churche, as in deniyng the true and naturall bodie of Christe, and his naturall bloud to be the Sacrament of the Altar: Secondarily in affirming the substaunce of bread and wine to remaine after the wordes of the consecration: Thirdly in deniyng the Masse to bee a liuelye Sacrifice of the Churche for the quicke and the dead, and by no meanes would bee perduced
Led, guided.
MarginaliaThe last apperaunce and examination of M. Latymer before the Commissioners.THis sentence beyng published by the Bishop of Lincolne, M. Ridley was committed as a prisoner to the Maior, and immediatly M. Latimer was sent for: but in the meane season the Carpet or cloth which lay vpō the table, whereat M. Ridley stode, was remoued, because (as men reported) M. Latymer had neuer the degree of a Doctor as M. Ridley had. But eftsones as M. Latymer appeared as he did the day before, perceiuyng no cloth vpon the table, laid his hat, whiche was an olde felt, vnder his elbowes, and immediatly spake to the Commissioners, saiyng:
[Back to Top]Lati. My Lordes, I beseech your Lordships to set a better order here at your entraunce: for I am an olde man and haue a verye euill backe, so that the presse of the multitude doth me much harme.
Linc. I am sory M. Latimer for your hurte. At your departure we will see to better order.
With that M. Latimer thanked his Lordshyp, makyng a very low courtesie. After this the Bishoppe of Lincolne began on this manner.
Linc. M. Latimer, although yesterday after wee hadMarginaliaThe Bishop of Lincolnes wordes to M. Latymer.taken your aunsweres to those articles whiche we proposed, might haue iustly proceded to iudgemēt against you, especially in that you required the same, yet we hauyng a good hope of your returnyng, desiring not your destruction, but rather that you would recant, reuoke
[Back to Top]your errours, and turne to the catholick church, differred farther processe till this day, and now accordyng to the appointment, we haue called you here before vs, to heare whether you are content to reuoke your heretical assertions, and submit your selfe to the determination of the church, as we most hartely desire, and I for my part, as I did yesterday, most earnestly doe exhort you, either to know whether you perseuer still the man that you were, for the which we would be sory.
[Back to Top]It semed that the Bishop would haue farther proceded, sauyng that M. Latimer interrupted hym, saiyng:
MarginaliaM. Latymer short with the Cōmissioners.Lati. Your Lordship often doth repeate
The word 'inculk' in the first edition was replaced in later editions with 'repeat'.
Cited.
Actually a proconsul, not bishops; see the Vita Cypriani.
This quotation is taken from Cyprian, De exhortatione martyrii, cap. 11.
This word was added in the 1570 edition, undoubtedly to make it clear that it was Latimer, not Cyprian, who asked the ensuing questions.
Linc. Your cause and S. Cyprians is not one, but cleane contrary, for he suffred persecution for Christes sake and the Gospell: but you are in trouble for your errours and false assertions, contrarie to the worde of God, and the receiued trueth of the Church.
Lati. M. Latimer interrupiyng hym, said: MarginaliaThe cause of the Martyrs of the primitiue tyme, and of the Martyrs of the latter tyme all one.yes verely, my cause is as good as S. Ciprians: for his was for the word of God and so is myne.
But Lincolne goeth forth in his talke.
Also at the beginning and foundation of the church, it could not be but that þe Apostles should suffer great persecution. Further, before Christes commyng, continually they were very fewe which truely serued God: MarginaliaThe image of the Churche before Christes commyng compared with the Church after his commyng.but after his commyng beganne the time of grace, then began the Churche to encrease, and was continually augmented vntil that it came vnto this perfection, and now hath iustly that iurisdiction whiche the vnchristian Princes before by tyranny did resist: there is a diuerse consideration of the estate of the Churche nowe in the tyme of grace, and before Christes commyng. But M. Latimer, although wee had instructions geuen vs determinately to take your aunswere to suche articles as we should propose, without any reasonyng or disputations, yet wee hoping by talke somewhat to preuayle with you, appointed you to appeare before vs yesterday in the diuinitie schole, a place for disputations. And where as then not withstandyng you had licence to saye your mynde, and were aunswered to euerye matter, yet you could not be brought from your errors. We thynkyng that from that tyme ye woulde with good aduisement consider your state, gaue you respite from that tyme yesterdaie when we dimissed you, vntill this time, and now haue called you againe here in this place, by youre aunsweres to learne whether you are the same man as you were then or no? MarginaliaThe Articles againe propoūded to maister Latymer.Therefore wee will propose vnto you the same articles which we did then, and require of you a determinate aunswere, without farther reasoning, and eftesones recited the first article.
[Back to Top]MarginaliaMaster Latymer againe aunswereth with protestation, as before.Lati. Alwaies my protestation saued,
Reserved.