MarginaliaAnno, 1556. Iuly.truthe, hearyng how cruellie Palmer had beene delt withall in the prison, and pyned awaie for lacke of necessaries, and how euidently he had proued himselfe innocent before the Officers, of suche crimes as were obiected against hym: MarginaliaMaister Rider of Redyng, a faithfull fauourer of Goddes Gospell.he sent to hym his seruaunt secretly the night before his departure to Newbery, with a bowed groate in token of his good harte towarde hym, requiring him to let him vnderstand if he lacked necessaries, and he would prouide for him. Palmer aunswered, the Lord reward your Master for his beneuolence towarde mee, a miserable abiect in this worlde, and tell hym that (God be praised) I lacke nothing.

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In the mornyng before they toke their iourney MarginaliaThomas Askin or Roberts fellowe prisoner with Iulins Palmer.Thomas Askine,aliâs Roberts, beyng felow prisoner with hym in Christes cause, sittyng at breakfast, and beholdyng Palmer very sad, leaning to a window in the corner of the house, asked why he came not to breakefast. Because I lacke money (saithe Palmer) to discharge the shot. Come on man (quoth he) God be praised fot it I haue inough for vs both. Whiche thing when Maister Rider heard of, it cannot be expressed, howe muche it greeued hym, that Palmer had deceiued hym with so modest an aunswere.

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MarginaliaIulins Palmer brought to Newberie.Thus to Newbery they came, on monday night, and forthwith they were committed to the comfortable Hostry of the blynd house, where they found Iohn Guyn, their faithfull brother in the Lorde. Nowe, howe they came before the Consistory of Doct. Ieffrey, and howe Palmer was examined, it doth in part appeare by this examination hereunto annexed, whiche although it bee not perfectly and orderly penned, as the report goeth it was spoken, nor perchaunce altogether in suche forme of wordes: yet as exactly, as we were hable to compact, and dispose it, beeing gathered out of seuerall notes of MarginaliaWitnesses to the second part of this storie.Richard Shipper, Iohn Hunt, Iohn Kyrry of Newbery, Richard White of Marleborough, whiche were oculati testes, and present at the hearyng thereof.

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MarginaliaThe examination of Iulins Palmer before Doctor Ieffrey.IN the yere 1556. the xv. of Iuly, 4 or 5. seates were prepared in the Quyre of the Parishe Churche of Newbery, for the visitours, whose names here ensue: MarginaliaThe Iudges of Iul. Palmar.Doctor Ieffrey for the Bishop of Sarum, Sir Richarde Abridges Knight, and then high Sherife of the sheire. Sir William Rainsforde Knight, Maister Iohn Winscombe Esquier, and the Person of Inglefield. After the prisoners were presented, the Commission read, and other thinges done in order accordingly, Doctour Ieffrey called to Palmer and saide: Art thou that iollye writer of three halfepeny bookes that wee heare of.

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Palmer. I know not what you meane.

Ieffrey. Haue you taught Latine so long, that nowe you vnderstand not Englishe?

To this he aunswered nothing.

Then Doctor Ieffrey standyng vp, said. We haue receiued certaine writinges and Articles againste you, from the right worshipfull the Maior of Reading, and other Iustices, whereby we vnderstande, that beeyng conuented afore them, you were conuicte of certain Heresies.

First that you deny the Popes holines supremacie.

Next, that there are but two Sacramentes.

Thirdly, that the Priest sheweth vppe an Idoll at Masse: and therefore you went to no Masse, since your first commyng to Readyng.

Fourthly, that there is no Purgatorie.

Last of al, that you be a sower of sedition, and haue sought to deuide the vnitie of the Queenes subiectes.

The Sherife. You were best see firste what he will say to his owne handy worke.

Ieffrey. Ye saye truth. Tell me, Palmer art thou he that wrote this fayre Volume? Looke vpon it.

Palmer. I wrote it in deede, and gathered it out of the Scripture.

Ieffrey. Is this doggishe rime yours also? looke.

Palmer. I wrote this, I denie not.

Ieffrey. And what saye you to these Latine Verses, entituled Epicidion. &c. are they yours too?

Palmer. Yea Syr.

Ieffrey. Art thou not ashamed to affirme it? It came of no good Spirite, that thou diddest both raile at the dead, and sclaunder a learned, and Catholike man yet alyue.

Palmer. If it be a sclaunder, he hath sclaundred hymselfe: For I do but report his owne writyng, and open the follie therein declared. And I recken it no railyng to inuey against Annas and Cayphas beyng dead.

Ieffrey. Saiest thou so? I will make thee recant it, and wring Peccaui out of your liyng lyps, ere I haue done with thee.

Palmer. But I know, that although of my selfe I be hable to doe nothing, yet if you, and all myne enemies both bodely and ghostly, should do your worst, you shal not be hable to bryng that to passe, neither shall ye preuaile against Gods mightie spirite, by whom wee vnderstand the truthe, and speake it boldly.

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Ieffrey. Ah, are you full of the Spirite? Are ye inspired with the holy ghost?

Palmer. Syr, no man can beleeue, but by the inspiration of the holy ghost. Therfore If I were not a spirituall man, and inspired with Gods holy spirite, I were not a true Christian. Qui spiritum Christi non habet, hic non est eius. i.  

He that hath not the spirite of Christe, is none of his.

Ieffrey. I perceiue you lacke no wordes.

Palmer. MarginaliaThe holy ghost shall teach you in that howre what you shall aunswere. Luke. 2.Christe hath promised not onely to giue vs store of wordes necessary: but with them, suche force of matter, as the gates of Hell, shall not bee hable to confound, or preuaile against it.

Ieffrey. Christ made such a promise to his Apostles. I trow you will not compare with them?

Palmer. With the holy Apostles I maie not cōpare, neither haue I anye affiaunce in my owne wit or learnyng, whiche I know is but small, yet this promise I am certaine, pertaineth to all suche, as are apointed to defend Gods truth, against his enemies, in the tyme of their persecution for the same.

Ieffrey. Then it pertaineth not to thee.

Palmer. Yes, I am right well assured, that through his grace, it pertaineth at this present to me, as it shall (I doubt not) appere, if ye geue mee leaue to dispute with you before this audience, in the defence of all that I haue there written.

Ieffrey. Thou art but a beardles boy, start vp yesterday out of the scholes, and darest thou presume to offer disputations, or to encounter with a Doctour? MarginaliaA maruel to the Papistes, that yong mē should haue the gifte of þ^e holy ghost.

Palmer. Remember M. Doctour: Spiritus vbi vult spirat.  

And againe: Ex ore infantium. &c.  

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Palmer, citing phrases from St. John, 3. 8., Psalm 8. 2. (3.) and St. Matthew, 11. 25.

Foxe text Latin

Spiritus vbi vult spirat ... Ex ore infantium. ... Et abscondisti haec sapientibus.

Foxe text translation

The spirite breatheth when it pleaseth hym … Out of the mouth of Infants. &c. … And thou hast hydden these things from the wise. &c.

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Actual text of St. John, 3. 8. (Vulgate)

Spiritus vbi vult spirat

Actual text of Psalm 8. 2. (3.) (Vulgate)

Ex ore infantium.

Actual text of St. Matthew, 11. 25 (Vulgate)

[quia] abscondisti haec a sapientibus [et prudentibus].

[Accurate citations.]

And in an other place: Abscondisti hæc sapientibus. &c. i.  

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Palmer, citing phrases from St. John, 3. 8., Psalm 8. 2. (3.) and St. Matthew, 11. 25.

Foxe text Latin

Spiritus vbi vult spirat ... Ex ore infantium. ... Et abscondisti haec sapientibus.

Foxe text translation

The spirite breatheth when it pleaseth hym … Out of the mouth of Infants. &c. … And thou hast hydden these things from the wise. &c.

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Actual text of St. John, 3. 8. (Vulgate)

Spiritus vbi vult spirat

Actual text of Psalm 8. 2. (3.) (Vulgate)

Ex ore infantium.

Actual text of St. Matthew, 11. 25 (Vulgate)

[quia] abscondisti haec a sapientibus [et prudentibus].

[Accurate citations.]

The spirite breatheth whē it pleaseth him. &c. Out of the mouth of Infantes. &c. And thou hast hidden these thinges from the wise. &c. MarginaliaGods spirite is not bounde to place, or persō.God is not tyed to tyme, witte, learnyng, place, nor person. And although your wit and learning be greater then myne: yet your belief in the trueth, and zeale to defend the same, is not greater then myne.

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Register. Syr, if you suffer hym thus impudentlie to trifle with you, he will neuer haue done.

Ieffrey. Well, ye shall vnderstand, MarginaliaNote how these menne dare not abide disputation.that I haue it not in Commission at this present to dispute with you, neither were it meete that we should call againe into question, suche Articles, as are alreadie discussed, and perfectly defined, by our mother the holie Churche, whom wee ought to beleeue without why or wherefore, as the Crede telleth vs. But the cause why ye be nowe called hither, is that ye might be examined vpō suche articles, as are ministrede againste you, and suche matter as is here contained in your hande writyng, that it maie bee seene, whether you will stand to it, or nay. How say you to this?

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Palmer. MarginaliaThe churche of Rome is but a particular Churche.By your holy Church, you meane the Sinagoge of Rome, which is not vniuersal, but a particular Churche of shauelynges. MarginaliaThe churche is not to bee beleued for her self.The Catholicke Churche I beleue, yet not for her owne sake, but because she is holy, that is to saie: a Churche that groundeth her belief vpon the worde of her spouse Christ.

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Ieffrey. Leaue railing, and answere me directly to my question. Will ye stand to your writing, or will ye not?

Palmer. If ye proue anie sentence therin cōprised, not to stand with Gods woord, I will here presently recant it.

Ieffrey. Thou impudent felow, haue I not told thee, that I came not to dispute with thee, but to examine thee.

Here the Parson of Inglefield, pointing to the pixe, said. What seest thou yonder.

Palmer. A Cannepie of silke brodered with gold.

Person. Yea, but what is within it.

Palmer. A peece of bread in a cloute, I trowe.

Person. Thou art as froward an Heretike as euer I talked with all. Here was muche spoken of Confiteor &