MarginaliaCatholicke conueyance among these Byshops.MarginaliaAn. 1557. Maye.And then the Byshop agayne start vp as a man halfe rauished of his wittes for ioye, embracyng him with many gētle woordes, and sayd, that he was very glad of his commyng, makyng him selfe ignoraunt therof, as he thought it should appeare to me. Then said Winchester.

B. Win. Syr, I am very glad of your cōmyng. For here I haue one before me, who hath appealed vnto you beyng his Ordinary. Then sayd the Archdeacon of Canterbury.

Arch. Cant. I know this man very well. He hath bene diuers tymes before me. And then I aunswered and sayd.

Gratw. MarginaliaSte. Gratwicke not of Rochester Dioces.My Lord, I am not of his Dioces, not by fiue myles: for his Dioces teacheth on that parties but to the Cliffes of Lewes, & I dwelled at Bright Hempson, fiue myles beyond, in the Dioces of the Byshop of Chichester, and therfore I am not of his Dioces.

MarginaliaThe Byshops counterfaite a false Ordinary agaynst Ste. Gratwicke.Then the Byshop of Winchester, the Byshop of Rochester, and the Archdeadon of Cāterbury, cast their heades together, & laughed: & then they sayd my Ordinary would be here by and by, and so they sent forth for a counterfeite in steede of myne Ordinary, and then I saw them laugh, and I spake vnto them, and sayd:

Grat. Why do ye laugh? are ye confederate together for my bloud, and therein triumphe? you haue more cause to looke waightely vppon the matter, for I stand here before you vpon life and death. MarginaliaSee what care these men haue of poore mens bloud.But you declare your selues what you are, for you are lapped in Lābes apparell, but I would to God ye had the coates accordyng to your assembly here, whiche is scarllet gownes, for I do here perceiue you are bent to haue my bloud.

MarginaliaHere commeth in the vyce in the play.And thē came rushing in their coūterfeited Bishop, who was the hyred seruaunt to deliuer me into the handes of the high Priest: and the Byshop hearyng him come, with hast enquired of his man, who was there, and he sayd, my Lord of Chichester. Then the Byshop with hast rose vp, & sayd.

Wint. Ye are most hartely welcome, and required hym to sit downe: and then sayd the Byshoppe of Winchester to me: Lo here is your Ordinary. What haue you now to say vnto him?

Grat. I haue nothyng to say to him. If he haue nothyng to say to me, I pray you let me departe. Then aunswered my Counterfeite Ordinary, and sayd.

Counterf. Here ye stand before my Lordes and me in triall of your fayth, and if you bryng the truth, we shall by compulsiō geue place vnto you, as it is to be proued by the word, and your doctrine to be heard and placed for a truth.

Grat. Then I demaunded of him whether hee ment by authoritie, or by the Iudgement of the spirite of God in his members.

And he aunswered me, by authoritie as well as by the spirite.

Grat. Then I sayd: Now will I turne your owne Argument vpon you: MarginaliaChrist bringing the truth could not be heard of the Scribes and Pharisies.for Christ came before the high Priestes, Scribes and Phariseis, bryngyng the truth with him, beyng the very truth him selfe, whiche truth can not lye, yet both he and his truth was condemned, and tooke no place with them. And also the Apostles, and all the Martyrs that dyed since Christ: therefore I turne your owne Argument vpon you aunswere it if you can.

Counterf. Then he with a great hast of coller, sayd vnto the Byshop of Winchester: obiect some Articles agaynst him, for hee is obstinate, and would fayne get out of our handes, therefore hold him to some particular: so that other aunswere could I not haue of his Argument.

Wint. MarginaliaObiections of the Byshops owne making.Then the Byshop of Winchester began to read his obiectiōs of his owne makyng agaynst me, and bad me aunswere vnto them. And I sayd:

Grat. No, except you would set the law apart, because I see you are myndefull of my bloud.

Wint. Now you may see he will not aunswere to these, but as he hath aforesayd. Then spake the Counterfeite Ordinarie agayne, and sayd:

Counterf. My Lord, aske him what he sayth to the Sacrament of the aultar. Then the Byshop asked me, as my Counterfeite Ordinary required him.

Grat. My Lord, MarginaliaSacrament of the Lordes supper.I do beleue that in the Sacrament of the Supper of the Lord truely ministred in both kyndes accordyng to the institution of Christ, vnto the worthy receauer, hee eateth mistically by fayth the body and bloud of Christ. Thē I asked him if it were not the truth. And he sayd yes. Then sayd I, beare witnesse of the truth.

Winchester. Then the Byshop of Winchester, whose head beyng subtilest to gather vpon my wordes, sayd: My Lorde see you not how he creepeth away with his heresies, and couereth them priuily? MarginaliaThe sacrament of the altar no sacrament.Note how he here separateth the Sacrament of the aultar, from the Supper of the Lord, meanyng it not to be the true Sacrament, and also how he condemneth our ministratiō in one kynde, and alloweth that the vnworthy receauer doth not eate and drinke the body and

bloud of Christ:MarginaliaThe wicked eate not the body of the Lorde. which be sore matters truely wayed, being couered very craftely with his subtill shiftes of sophestry, but he shall aunswere directly or euer he depart.

Grat. My Lord, thys is but your gatheryng of my wordes, for you before confessed the same sayinges to be the truth, & this you catch at me, and fayne would haue a vauntage for my bloud: but seeyng you iudge me not to meane the sacrament of the aulter, nowe come to the probation of the same Sacrament, and proue it to be the true sacrament, and I am with you: or els if you can proue your church to be the true church, I am also with you.

But then he called to memory the last probation of the Church and Sacramentes, howe he before was dreuen to forsake the scriptures, and to shew me by good reason howe they might minister the sacrament in one kynd: and his reason was this: MarginaliaThe Byshop of Winchestes reason to proue the sacrament in one kinde.Like as a man or woman dyeth on a sodayne, and so when we haue geuen him the body of Christ, in the meane tyme the partie dyeth, and so he eateth the body of Christ, & not drynketh his bloud. And this was his simple shift in the prouyng of theyr Sacramentes: so that he was now halfe abashed to beginne that matter agayne.

But yet a little subtill shift he brought in, and sayd.

Winc. What sayest thou by the administration of þ^e priestes euery daye for them selues, and they minister in both kindes?

To that I aunswered: you haue two administrations: for I am sure at Easter you minister but in one kynd, and therfore it is not accordyng to the institution of Christ, but after your owne imaginations.

Winc. Why, then what sayest thou to these wordes: Take, eate this is my body. These are the wordes of Christ. Wilt thou deny them?

Grat. My Lord, they are the words of scripture, I affirme them, and not deny them.

Rochest. Why, then thou doest confesse in the Sacrament of the aulter to be a reall presence, the selfe same body that was borne of the Virgine Mary, and is ascended vp into heauen.

Grat. My Lorde, what do you meane? doe you not also meane a visible body? for it cannot be, but of necessity, if it be a reall presence, and a materiall body, it must bee a visible body also.

Winc. Nay, I say vnto thee, it is a reall presence, and a materiall body, and an inuisible bodye to.

Grat. MarginaliaThe Catholickes make a phantasticall body in the sacrament.My Lord, then of necessity it must needes be a phantasticall body, for if it shoulde be materiall, and inuisible as you affirme, then it must needes be a phantasticall body: for it is apparant that Christes humayne body was visible, and sene.

Winc. Then the Byshop brake out and sayd: when diddest thou see him? I pray the tell me.

Grat. To that I aunswered and sayd: a simple argument it is. Because our corporal eyes cannot comprehend Christ, doth that proue or follow, that he is inuisible, because we can not see him?

Winc. And with that the Byshop began to waxe wery of his argumēt, and remoued his talke to Iudas in eatyng the sacrament, and sayd: he eate him wholy, as þ^e Apostles dyd.

Grat. And then I asked him, if he ment Christes fleshe and bloude the whiche he speaketh of in the vj. of Iohn, and sayth: he that eateth my flesh, and drynketh my bloud, hath eternall life in me.

Winc. To that he aunswered, and sayd, yea.

Grat. MarginaliaIf the wicked doe eate the body of Christ, they must needes be saued. And if Infantes eate him not, they must be condemned by the Popes doctrine.Then sayd I, of necessitye Iudas must needes be saued, because he eate the flesh, and dranke the bloud of Christ as you haue affirmed,and also all the vngodly that dye with out repentaunce, because they haue eaten your sacramente, whiche you say is the flesh and bloud of Christ: therefore of necessitye they shall receaue the benefite therof, that is, eternall life. Whiche is a great absurditie to graunt, and then of necessitie, it must follow, that all that eate not, and drynke not of your Sacrament, shall finally perish and be damned: for Christ sayth, except you eate my fleshe, and drynke my bloud, you can haue no life in me. And you haue afore sayd, that your sacrament, is the same flesh and bloud that Christ speaketh of, and here I proue, that all children then, that dye vnder age to receaue þ^e sacrament, by your owen argument, they must be damned, whiche is horrible blasphemy to speake. Now here I turne your own argument vppon you: aunswere it if you can.

Winc. My Lord, do you not see what deceitfull arguments he bryngeth in here agaynst vs, mingled with sophistry, and kepeth himselfe in vantage, so that we can get no hold vpon him. But I say vnto thee, thou peruerse heretike, I see nowe, thou art a peruerse fellowe. I hadde a better opinion of thee, but nowe I see we loose our tyme about thee, yet I aunswere thee: S. Paule doth open the sixt of Ioh. playne, if thou wilt see, for he sayth: they eate Christes