Marginalia1558.Chaunc. Thou must beleue this, or els thou art damned.

Eliz. Syr, can ye geue me beliefe or faith?

Chaunc. No, God must geue it thee.

Eliz. God hath geuen me no such faith or beliefe.

The Chauncellour then declared a text of S. Paul in Latine, and then in Englishe, saying: I could make thee beleue, but that thou hast a cankered hart, and wylt not beleue. Who then can make thee to beleue?

Eliz. You said euen nowe, MarginaliaFayth commeth of God: Ergo, no vntruth is to be beleued.that faith or beliefe commeth of God, and so beleue I, and thē may not I beleue an vntruth to be a truth.

Chaun. Doost thou not beleue that Christes flesh is flesh in thy flesh?

Eliz. No sir, I beleue not that, for my fleshe shall putrifie and rot.

Chaunc. Christ said, my flesh is flesh in flesh. MarginaliaChrist is fleshe of our flesh, but not in our fleshe.

Eliz. Who so receiueth hym fleshly, shal haue a fleshly resurrection.

Chaunc. Christ saith in the sixt of Iohn: MarginaliaIohn. 6.My flesh is meat in deede, and my bloud is drinke in deede.

Eliz. Christ preached to the Capernaites, saying: Except ye eate the fleshe of the sonne of man, and drinke his bloud, ye shall not haue life in you: and the Capernaites murmured at it. And his Disciples also murmured, saying among them selues: This is an hard saying, and who can abyde it? Christe vnderstoode their meanyng, and said: Are ye also offended? Wyll ye also goe avvay? What and if ye shall see the sonne of man ascend vp to heauē from vvhence he came? vvyll that offende you? It is the spirite that quickeneth: the fleshe profiteth nothing. I pray you sir, what meaneth Christ by that?

Chaunc. O God forbyd. MarginaliaThys man dare not expound the Scripture, yet he dare iudge vpon heresie.Woulde ye haue me to interprete the scriptures? We must leaue that for our old auncient fathers, which haue studyed the scriptures a long tyme, and haue the holy ghost geuen vnto them.

Eliz. Why sir, haue ye not the holy ghost geuen and reueled vnto you?

Chaunc. MarginaliaThe Papists dare not assure them selues to haue the holy Ghost.No, God forbid that I should so beleue: but I hope, I hope: But ye say, ye are of the spirit. Wyl you say that ye haue no profite in Christes flesh?

Eliz. Syr, we haue our profite in Christes flesh, but not as the Capernaites dyd vnderstande it: MarginaliaThe Capernaites fayth.For they vnderstoode, that they muste eate his fleshe, as they dyd eate Oxe fleshe and other, and drinke his bloud, as we drinke wyne or beere out of a Bole. But so we muste not receiue it. But our profite that we haue by Christe, MarginaliaThe place of Iohn. cap. 6. expounded how Christes flesh is Meate.is to beleue that his bodye was broken vppon the Crosse, and his bloud shed for our sinnes: That is the very meanyng of Christ, that so wee shoulde eate his fleshe and drinke his bloude, when he said: My fleshe is meate in deede, and my bloud is drinke in deede.

Chaunc. Howe doth thy bodye liue, if Christes flesh be not flesh in thy flesh?

Eliz. Syr, I was a body before I had a soule: which body God had created, & yet it could not lyue, til God had breathed life into me, and by that life doth my body liue. And when it shal please God to dissolue my life, my flesh wyl offer it selfe vnto the place from whence it came, & through the merites of Christ, my soule wyl offer it selfe to the place from whence it came.

Chaunc. Yea, but if thou do not beleue that Christes flesh is flesh in thy flesh,MarginaliaChristes flesh is flesh in our flesh, say the Papistes. thou canst not be saued.

Eliz. Syr, I do not beleue that.

Chaunc. Why, doth not Christe say: My fleshe is meate in deede, and my bloud is drinke in deede? Canst thou denie that?

Eliz. I denie not that: for Christes fleshe and bloude is meate and drinke for my soule,MarginaliaChristes flesh is meate for our soule, say the Christians. the foode of my soule. For who so euer beleueth that Iesus Christe the sonne of God hath dyed & shed his bloud for his sinnes, his soule feedeth theron for euer.

Chaunc. When thou receiuest the Sacrament of the aultar, doest thou not beleue that thou doest receiue Christes body?

Eliz. Syr, when I do receyue the Sacrament whiche Christe did institute and ordeine the night before he was betrayed, and leaft among his Disciples, as often (I say) as I receiue it, I beleue that spiritually and by faith I receyue Christe. MarginaliaIn the Sacrament ministred and receaued according to Christes institution, we receaue Christ.And of this Sacrament I know Christ hym selfe to be the authour, and none but he. And this same sacrament is an establishment to my conscience, and an augmenting to my faith.

Chaunc. Why, dyd not Christ take bread and gaue thanks and brake it, and gaue it to his Disciples, and sayd: Take, eate, this is my bodye that is geuen for you? Dyd he geue them his body or no?

Eliz. He also tooke the Cuppe, and gaue thanks to his Father, and gaue it vnto his Disciples, saying: Drinke ye

all hereof: for this is the Cuppe of the newe Testamente in my bloud, whiche shall be shedde for many. MarginaliaOne question solued by an other.Nowe I pray you Syr, let me aske you one question: Dyd he geue the cup the name of his bloud, or els the wyne that was in the cup?

Then was he very angry and said: Doost thou thinke that thou hast an hedge priest in hand?

Eliz. No sir, I take you not to be an hedge Priest. I take you for a Doctour.

Chaunc. So me thinketh: thou wylt take vpon thee to teach me.

Eliz. No sir.: But I let you knowe what I knowe: and by argument one shal knowe more.

MarginaliaThe Sacrament a witnes both of Christes death and of his comming agayne.Christ said: As oft as ye doo this, doo it in the remembraunce of me: but a remēbrance is not of a thyng present, but absent. Also S. Paul saith: So oft as ye shall eate of this bread, and drinke of this cuppe, ye shal shewe forth the Lordes death tyl he come. Then we may not looke for hym here, vntyll his commyng againe at the latter day. Againe, is not this article of our beliefe true: He sitteth at the right hand of God the father almighty: frō thence he shal come to iudge the quicke and the dead? But if he shal not come, before he come to iudgement, then how is he here present in your sacrament of the aultar? MarginaliaChristes body occupieth but one place at once.Wherefore I beleue that the humane body of Christ occupyeth no more but one place at once, for when he was here, he was not there.

MarginaliaThe sixt examination of Elizabeth Young.WHo saide vnto her: Woman, the laste tyme that thou wast before me, our talke was concernyng the Sacrament.

Eliz. Syr, true it is, and I trust that I said nothyng that ye can deny, by the scriptures.

Chaunc. Yes, MarginaliaThe fleshly reason of the Papistes.thou wylt not beleue that Christes fleshe is flesh in thy flesh.

Eliz. No sir, God hath geuen me no such beliefe, for it can not be found by the scriptures.

Chaunc. Wilt thou beleue nothing but what is in the scripture? why, how many sacramentes doost thou finde in the scripture?

Eliz. The Church of Christ doth set forth twaine.

Chaunc. I wyl as wel find seuen by the scripture, as thou shalt find twaine.

Eliz. Syr, I talke not to you thereof, but I saye that the MarginaliaName of Sacramentes geuen by the Church.church of Christ setteth out twaine, and I haue ben taught no more.

Chaunc. What are those twaine?

Eliz. MarginaliaTwo Sacramentes.The sacrament of Christes body and bloud, and the sacrament of Baptisme.

Chaunc. MarginaliaWedlocke.What sayest thou by the Sacrament of Wedlocke?

Eliz. I haue not hearde it called a sacrament, but the holy estate of matrimonie, which ought to be kept of al men that take it vpon them.

Chaunc. MarginaliaPriestes mariage.Howe sayest thou by Priestes? Is it good that they should mary? is it to be kept of them?

Eliz. I come not hyther to reason any such matters, for I am no Diuine, and also it is no part of my faith.

Chaunc. Can ye not tell? ye shal tel or euer you goe.

Eliz. Syr, then must ye keepe me a good while, for I haue not studyed the scriptures for it.

Chaunc. No? Why, ye wyll not be ashamed to flee vnto the highest mystery euen to the sacrament, at the first dash, and ye are not afeard to argue with the best Doctour in the lande.

Eliz. Gods mysteries I wil not medle with, but al things that are written, are written for our edification.

Chaun. MarginaliaPraying for the dead.What say ye by prayer for the dead? is it not meet that if a mans frend be dead, his frende commende his soule vnto God?

Eliz. There is no Christian man that wyll commende his frende nor yet his foe, vnto the Deuyll. And whether it be good for hym, when he is dead or no, sure I am, that it is good when he is alyue.

Chaunc. MarginaliaPurgatory.Then thou allowest not prayer to be good for thē when they be dead, and lying in Purgatorie. Is it not meete that prayer be made vnto God for them?

Eliz. Syr, I neuer heard in the scriptures of Purgatory, but in the scripture I haue heard of heauen and hel.

Chaunc. Why, ye haue nothyng but the skimmyng of the scriptures. Our auncient fathers could find out in the bottome of the scriptures, that there is a Purgatorie. Yea, they could find it in the new Testament, that a Priest shal take the sacramēt and go to the altar, and make an oblationMarginaliaOblation for the dead. and offer it vp euery day.

Eliz. Syr, that coulde neuer be founde in the Bible nor