willyng) hereafter.

MarginaliaAn other obiection of the papistes.And where the sayd our aduersaries do moreouer charge vs with the fayth of our fathers and Godfathers, wherin we were baptised, accusing and condemninge vs, for that we are nowe reuolted from them and their fayth, wherin we were first Christened: MarginaliaAūswer to the obiectiō.To this we Aūswer, that we beyng first baptised by our fathers and Godfathers, in water, in the name of the Father, of the Sonne, & of the holy Ghost, the same fayth wherin we were Christened then, we do retaine, and because our Godfathers were themselues also in the same fayth, therfore they can not say that we haue forsakē the fayth of our Godfathers, &c. As for other pointes of ecclesiasticall vses and circūstaunces considered, besides the principall substaunce of fayth and baptisme, if they helde any thyng whiche receaded from the doctrine and rule of Christ, therin we now remoue our selues not because we woulde suffer from them, but because we would not with them remoue from the rule of Christes doctrine. MarginaliaNo man bound to folow the opiniōns of his Godfathers in all pointes vnlesse they be consonāt in al thingsNeyther doth the Sacramēt of our baptisme bynde vs in all pointes to the opinions of them that baptised vs, but to the fayth of him, in whose name we were baptised. For as if a man were Christened of an heretique, the baptisme of him notwithstādyng were good, although þ^e baptiser were nought: so if our Godfathers or fathers, which christened vs, were taught any thyng, not consonant to Christian doctrine in all points, neither is our baptisme worsse for that, nor yet we bound to folow them in all thynges, wherin they themselues did not folow the true Church of Christ.

Wherfore as it is false, that we haue renounced the faith of our Godfathers wherin we were first baptised, so is it false, that we are remoued from the Church of Rome. But rather say, and (by the leaue of Christ) will proue that the Church of Rome hath vtterly departed from the Church of Rome, accordyng to my distinction afore touched. Which thyng the more euidently to declare, I will here compare the Church of Rome, with the Church of Rome: Marginaliathe Church of Rome distincted frō the Churche of Rome.And in a generall description set forth (by Gods grace) the differēce of both the Churches, that is, of both þ^e tymes of the church of Rome: to the intent it may be seen, whether we or the Church of Rome haue more Apostatate from the Church of Rome.

Marginaliatwo tymes of the church of Rome cōsidered and examinedAnd here first I diuide the Church of Rome in a double consideration of tyme, first of those first. 600. yeares whiche were immediatly after Christ: and secondly of the other. 600. yeares, whiche now haue bene in these our latter dayes. And so in comparynge these two together, will search out what discrepance is betweene them both. Of the which two ages & states of the Romaine Churche, the first I call the primitiue Church of Rome The other I call the latter Church of Rome, countyng this latter Churche from the thousand yeares expired after the bindyng up of Sathan, the the tyme of lousing agayne accordyng to the Prophesie of the. xx. chapt. of S. Iohns Reuelation, countyng these 1000. yeares from the ceasing of persecution, vnder Constantinus Magnus, to the begynnyng of persecution agayne vnder Innocentius .3. and Ottomannus the first. And thus haue ye the Churche of Rome parted into two Churches, indouble respect and consideration of two sondry states and tymes. Now in settyng and matchyng the one state with the other, let vs see whether the Churche of Rome hath swarued from the Church of Rome more then we, or no.

MarginaliaThe first point.ANd to begin first & qualities of life: I aske here of this Romaine Clergie, where was this Church of theirs which now is, in the old auncient tyme of the primitiue Church of Rome, with this pompe and pride, with this riches & superfluitie, with this gloria mundiMarginaliaThe enormities of life in the latte church of Rome described.and name of Cardinals, with this praunsing dissolutenes and hooring of the Curtisans, with this extortion, bribyng, bying & sellyng of spirituall dignities, these Annates, reformations, procurations, exactions and other practises for money, this auarice insatiable, ambition intollerable, fleshly filthynes most detestable, barbarousnes and negligence in preachyng, promisbreakyng faythles, poysoning and supplantyng one an other, with such schismes and diuisions, whiche neuer were more seene then in the elections & court of Rome these 700. yeares, with such extreme crueltie, malice and tyranny in burnyng and persecutyng their poore brethren to death.

It were to long, and a thyng infinite, to stand particularly vpon these aboue rehersed. MarginaliaPolicies & practises of Rome to get money.And if a mā should prosecute at large all the schismes that haue bene in the Church of Rome sence the time of Damasus the firste, which are coūted to the nūber of. xviij. what a volume would it require? Or if here should be recorded all that this Sea hath burned and put to death since lousing out of Sathnā, who wereable to number them? Or if all their sleightes to get money, should be described, as proces of matter would require, who were able to recite them all? Of which all notwithstādyng, the most principal groūdes are reconed at least to. xiiij or xv.

First for annates, or vacanties of Archbyshopriks, Byshoprikes, Abbaties, Priories conuentuall, and other benefices electiue.

Secondly, for the holding and reteinyng of all other spirituall liuyngs whatsoeuer, besides this whiche now he payeth for, or which he may hold hereafter.

Thirdly, new annates for all the same are required agayne, toties quoties, any one of all his spirituall liuynges be, or are feyned to be not orderly come by, wherby it hath chaunsed diuers tymes,three or four annates to be payed for one benefice.

Fourthly, for geuing out preuētions of benefices before they fall, and many tymes some one preuention to be geuen to diuers and sundry persons, by the office for money sake.

Fiftly, for resignations vpon fauour, whiche in many cases the Pope chalengeth to be reserued to him selfe.

Sixtly, for commendams.

Seuently, for compoundyng with such as be absent frō their charge, and geue attendance about the court.

Eightly, for infinite dispensations, as to dispence with age, with order, with benefices incompatible, as if the number be full, if the house be of such or such an order. Item dispensation for irregularitie, for whoredome and aduoutry, for tymes of mariage, for marying in degrees forbidden, or in affinitie canonical, for Gossips to mary, for the whiche it hath bene seen in Fraunce a thousand crownes to be payd to Rome at one tyme, for dispensing with this canonicall affinity of Gossyppes, as we call it, the same beyng yet not true, but fayned. Item dispensing for eatyng meates in tymes prohibited.

Ninthly, for innumerable priuilegies, exemptions, graces for not visityng, or visiting by a Proctor, for confirmations of priuileges, for transactions made vpon speciall fauour of the Pope, for permutations of benefices with dispensation annexed, or makyng of pensions, with such like.

Tenthly, for mandates graunted by the Pope, to Ordinaries, wherof euery Ordinary, if he haue the collatiō or presentation of. x. may receaue one mandate, if he haue fifty, he may receaue. ij. mandates, and for euery mandate cōmeth to the Pope about. xx. ducates. And yet notwithstanding so many are sold, as will come byers to pay for them.

Eleuenthly, for the Popes penitentiarie, for absolution of cases reserued to the Pope, for breakyng and chaunging of vowes, for translation from one monasterie to an other, also from one order to an other, for licence to enter into certaine Monasteries, to carye about altars, with many other thynges of like deuise, pertainyng to the office of the Popes penitentiary.

Twelfly, for geuyng & graunting of innumerable pardons and Indulgences, to be read not onely in publicque temples, but also to be bought in priuate houses, and of priuate persons, in diuers and sundry respectes.

Thirtenthly, for making Notaries, and Prothomaries, and other offices of the court of Rome.

Fourteenthly, for grauntyng out Buls and commissions of new foundations, or for chaungyng of the old, for reducing regular Monasteries, to a secular state, or for restoryng agayne into the old, & for other infinite rescriptes and writes, about matters dependyng in controuersie, & otherwise might and ought by the Ordinarie to be decided.

Fiftenthly, for geuing the palle to Archbishops newly elected, by reason of all which deuises (besides the first of the Annates) it hath bene accounted out of the kynges recordes in Fraūce, in the time of Ludouike the. ix. (as testifieth Molineus) to the number of. cc. thousand crownes, onely out of Fraunce payd and transported to Rome. Whiche summe since that tyme hath bene doubled & tripled, besides Annates and Palles, whiche all together are thought to make the total summe,MarginaliaSumma totalis. yearely goyng out of Fraunce to the Popes coffers of late yeares. x. Myriades, or Millions, euerye Myriade mountyng to. x. thousand crownes. Now what hath risen besides in other Realmes and nations, let other men coniecture.

Wherefore if the Gospell sende vs to the fruites to know the tree, I pray you what is to be thought of the Churche of Rome, with these fruites of life? Or if we will seeke the Churche in length and number of yeares, where was this Church of Rome with these qualities then, at what time the Church of Rome was a persecuted Church, and not a persecutyng Church? And when the Byshops therof did not make Martyrs, as these do now, but were made Martyrs them selues, to the number of. xxv. in order one