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K. Henry. 6. The Councell of Basill.

are the greater part of prelates, we make the Councell, and it is our part to conclude: and I in the name of all other prelates do conclude that it is to be deferred and delayed. With this word, there sprang such a noyse and rumour in the Councell as is accustomed to bee in battayle with the sounde of Trompets and noyse of horsemen, when as two armyes ioyne. Some cursing that which Panormitan wēt about, other some allowyng the same: So that diuersitie of myndes made duiers contentions.

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MarginaliaNicolas Amici a diuine of Paris. Then Nicolas Amici, a Diuine of Paris, accordyng vnto his office, said. Panormitan I appeale from this your conclusion, to the iudgement of the Councell here present, neither do I affirme any thyng to be ratified whiche you haue done, as I am ready to proue, if it shall seeme good. The contrary part seemed now to be in the better place, for they had already concluded. The other part had neither cōcluded, neither was it sene how they could cōclude amongest so great cryes and vprores. Notwithstandyng amongest all this troublous noyse, Iohn Segouius a singular Diuine of the vniuersitie of Salamantine lacked not audience: for þe whole Coūcell was desirous for to heare him: wherfore all men as soone as he rose vp kept silence, and he perceiuyng þt they were desirous to heare him speake, began in this sort.

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MarginaliaThe Oration of Segouius. Most reuerend fathers, the zeale and loue of the house of God forceth me now to speake: And I would to God that I had bene either blynd this day, not to haue sene those thynges which haue happened, or that I had bene deafe, that I should not haue heard those words which haue bene spoken. Who is it that is so stony or hard harted, which can abstaine from teares, when as the authoritie of the Church is so spoyled libertie taken away both from vs and the Coūcell, & that there is no place geuen vnto the veritie. O swete Iesu, why hast thou so forsaken thy spouse? Behold and looke vpon thy people, and helpe vs if our requestes are iuste. We come hether to prouide for the necessitie of the Church, we require nothyng for our selues, our desire is onely that truth might appeare. We trusted now to haue cōcluded vpō the verities which were some tymes allowed in the sacred deputations. The Oratours of the Princes are present, & require the conclusions to be deferred. But we be not vnmyndefull of those thynges whiche Ambrose wrote vnto Valentinian the Emperour in this maner:MarginaliaAmbros. ad Valentinianum. if we shall intreate vppon the order of the holy Scripture and auncient tymes past:MarginaliaHow farre and wherein bishops ought to iudge vpon Emperours. who is it that will deny but that in case of fayth (I say in case of fayth) the Byshops ought to iudge vpon Christian Emperours, & not Emperours vpon Byshops. Neither do we admit their petition but vpon most vrgent causes: Notwithstandyng we heard them paciently and willyngly, whyles that they did speake euen so long as they would.

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But now if any of our part would speake, by and by he is interruptted, troubled and letted. What honesty is this? What modesty or grauitie? is it lawfull so to do in the Councell? Where is the decree of þe Coūcell of Tholose now become( where are our decrees, which do not onely prohibite tumultes, but also all small bablynges & talke? They say, it is because we contemne them: but they are they, which not onely contemne the Councell: but also resiste the same.MarginaliaHe excuseth the Patriarke. The patriarke spake but one small word agaynst them, and that of no euill intent or purpose, and by and by they complayned that their liberty was broken: but they, when as they do inforce the Councell, when as they forbyd the President to speake, and will not suffer the ordinaunces to be read, do not iudge that they do any thyng contrary to the libertie of the Councell. They say, they are the Councell themselues, and yet they intreate the Councell. These thynges do not I vnderstand: for if they be the Councell, why do they intreate thēselues? If they be not the Councell, why do they not suffer the Councell for to speake? Why do they not looke for an aunswere of him to whom they make their petition?

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Truly this is to much violence, and certes our pacience is also to much, to suffer such excesse euen in the face of the Church. But this doth most of all greue me, and this do I most maruell at, that PanormitanMarginaliaHe meaneth Panormitan, which did conclude without the examination of the xii. men. a man of singular wit and doctrine did conclude without any discussing or decidyng of the deputies, and without the examination of the xij. men, or any rite or order. The which, except myne eyes had beheld and sene, I would scarsly beleue, if an other man should report it vnto me, of him: Neither do I yet know, whether I may sufficiently credite my selfe, the matter seemeth so horrible: for I do not see by what authoritie his conclusion doth stand, except it be by the authoritie of his kyng whom he sayth will haue it so. But you most reuerēd fathers take heede that ye bryng in no such custome: for so it shall come to passe, that in all matters, a few froward prelates shall haue one to conclude for them.

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And albeit Panormitane hath proued (as he thinketh) by strong reasons that the veritie ought to be deferred, yet notwithstandyng I do require you most reuerend fathers, to folow the example of the Apostle,MarginaliaPaul would geue to Peter no respite when he swarued awry. who (as Arelatensis hath very wel declared) would not geue one houres respite vnto Peter, when he swarued frō the truth of the Gospell. The fayth is spedely to be relieued and holpen, neither doth any thing susteine more daūger by delayes, then fayth doth. For heresies, except they be rooted out at the first, whē they are once growen, are hardly taken away. Wherfore I desire you speedely to helpe and ayde. Hoyse vp your sayles, and launch out your ores. What should we tary lookyng for either the prelates or the princes? You are now in conflict: I onely desire that you would hasten vnto the victory. Regard not the threatnynges of those princes, neither the opprobries of those contumelious persons, for you are blessed, sayth the Lord, when as men curse you and persecute you, speakyng all euill agaynst you, makyng lyes and slaunders vpon you for my sake: reioyce and be glad, for great is your reward in heauen. What is it I pray you that the princes do somuch obiect agaynst vs? Is not our Lord God able to take vs out of the furnace of burnyng fyre, and deliuer vs out of the hands of those princes? I besech you most reuerend fathers and louyng brethren, haue no lesse hope in Iesu Christ, then Sidrac, Misach, & Abdenago had,MarginaliaMarke the great cōstancie and Christian zeale of this man. which feared not that old kyng Nabuchodonosor: and let the princes know, that the most highest ruleth ouer the kyngdomes of men, and geueth them vnto whom he pleaseth. God beholdth all thynges from aboue (he is I say) in the middest amōgest vs, wherfore are ye then afrayde?MarginaliaAn exhoration to constancie. Be of good courage, and show your selues as a strong wall for the Church of God: suffer not the fayth to perish vnder your handes. The almighty God is present with you. He is present that will defende you. Feare not them which seeke onely to kill the body. Do iustice and equitie, and be assured that he will not deliuer you ouer into the handes of the backbiter and slaunderer. Agayne I say vnto you, show yourselues valiaunt and stout: Defend your mother the Church. And vnto thee, O thou president I say, that thou oughtest rather to please God then man, for if thou depart hence without a finall conclusion, know assuredly, that thou shalt render accompt in the straight iudgement of God. And thus without any more wordes, he sat downe in his place.

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In the meane tyme, many graue and auncient men had exhorted Panormitan that he should geue ouer his conclusion.MarginaliaThe byshop of Burgen seeketh concorde. The Byshop of Burgen was very instaunt and earnest with him, that he should make vnitie and concorde amōgest the fathers, and went about to make an vnitie with all men. But neither the fathers of the Councell were determined to depart without a cōclusion, neither Panormitan was mynded to aulter his intent & purpose. All thynges were disturbed, neither did the prelates sit in their seates, as they were accustomed, but as euery mans affection led him. Some went to the Cardinall Arelatensis, some vnto Panormitan and exhorted them, as if they had bene princes or rulers of armyes. Then Arelatēsis knowyng the matter to be in daunger, and that there was no ready way to make a cōclusiō, thought to vse some policie, to appease the tumult.

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MarginaliaHow men be ready to heare newes. Most reuerend fathers sayd he, we haue receiued new letters out of Fraunce, which declare vnto me marueilous thynges: that there are incredible newes sprong vp there: which if you will geue me willyng audience, I will declare vnto you. By this meanes there was a sodayne silence throughout the whole Councell, and by this merueilous policie he made all men attentiue to heare.MarginaliaNote the godly policie of the Cardinall. When as he saw he had free libertie to speake, without either fable or history of any letters sent, he opened the whole order of the matter, & as it is requisite in an Orator, came by litle and litle vnto the principall poynt, saying, þt Eugenius messengers filled all Fraūce, preachyng a new doctrine, and extollyng the authoritie of the Byshop of Rome, aboue the generall Councells: agaynst whom, except speedy remedy were founde, it would come to passe, that many would geue credit vnto thē, and therfore the sacred Councell ought of necessitie, to prouide remedy, and of necessitie to conclude vpon the verities which were examined, that therby the temerity of the Eugenians might be repressed:MarginaliaThe conclusion of the Councell. which verities, albeit they were. viij. in number, yet was it not the Fathers intent to conclude vpon them all, but onely the three first: euen as I also (sayth he) here do conclude, in the name of the Father, the Sonne, and the holy Ghost.

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When he had finished his Oratiō, with a chearefull and mery countenaunce rising vp, he departed. Some of them kissed him, and some of them kissed the skyrtes of his garmentes. A great number followed hym, and greatly commended his wisedome, that he beyng a French man borne,

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