MarginaliaThe examination of Rebezies. with the Lieuetenaunt ciuill: the second with the Presidents and the Counsaillers: the thyrd with þ^e Friers. First þ^e Lieutenaunt inquiring of his name countrey, and parentes, asked whether he was at the communion, whether he receaued with them the bread and wyne, and whether he was seruiture to M. Nicolas Cene. Seniour of the Congregation. Wherunto he sayd, yea. Also whether hee was a distributer of the tokens, wherby they were let in, that came. That he denyed. MarginaliaThe second examinatiō. Then was he brought into the Counsaile chamber, before ij. Presidentes, and xxv. Counsaillers, who after other questions about his countrey, and parentes, demaunded whether he was taken with them in the house. Hee aunswered: Yea. What he had to do there? To heare the worde of God, and to receaue with thē. Who brought hym thether? Him selfe. Whom there he knew? No man. How he durst or would enter, knowyng no person there? Truth it was (sayd he) that he knew there ij. or iij. Who were they( M. Grauelle, Cinet, and Iohn Sansot, feyning that name of him selfe. Whether he knew the preacher? That he denyed. Whether he allowed the acte there done to be good? Yea. Whether he dyd not better like to resorte vnto their beautified temples, to heare Masse: or whether hee did not take the Masse to be an holy thyng, MarginaliaMasse. and ordeined of God? He aunswered agayne contrary, beleuing that it was a great blaspheme agaynst God, and a seruice set vp of the deuill. Whether he did not acknowledge MarginaliaPurgatorie. Purgatorye? Yes, that Purgatorye which is the death and Passion of Christ, whiche taketh away the sinnes of the whole worlde. Thee death of Christ is the principall (sayd they) but thou must also beleue an other. Alas (sayd he) can we neuer content our selues with þ^e simplicitie of the Gospell, but man alwayes will be puttyng to, somthyng of his owne brayne? In so many places of the Scripture we see the bloud of Marginalia Iohn. 1.
Apoc. 5.
Heb. 9.
Esa. 43. Iesus Christ to be sufficient, as Iohn. 1. Apocal. 5. Hebr. 9. Esay. 43. Where the Lord himselfe sayeth. That it is he, who for hys owne sake putteth away our iniquities. &c. And S. Paule also sayth: that God was in Christ, reconcilyng the worlde vnto hymselfe. &c.Marginalia2. Cor. 5. And contrary, when they obiected the wordes of the parable. Mat. 5. Thou shalt not come out till thou hast MarginaliaMath. 5. payed the last farthyng: To this he answered that the wordes of that parable had no such relation, but to matters ciuile: and this worde (vntil) meaneth there, as much as neuer. After that, he was charged there by one, for reading the bookes of Caluin, Bucer, and Bullinger. The President asked, if he were not afraid to be burned, as were the other before, and to bring hys parentes into such dishonour. He aunswered that he knew wel, that all which would liue godly in Christ Iesus, should suffer persecution:Marginalia2. Tim. 3. and that to him eyther to liue or to dye, were aduauntage in the Lorde. And as touchyng his parentes, Christ (sayd he) doth premonish himselfe, That who so euer loueth father or mother more then hym, is not worthy MarginaliaMath. 10. to be hys. &c. Iesus Maria/, sayd the President, what youth is this now a dayes, which caste themselues so hedlong into the fire? and so was he commaunded away.

MarginaliaThe thyrd examinatiō. Thirdly, he was brought before Benet, maister of the Doctors of Sorbone, and an other called Iacobine, the 14. of October, where as he chancyng tro speake of the Lord, the Doctor began thus to obiect, as followeth.

MarginaliaThe differēce betwene the Lord and our Lord. See how you and all such as are of your company, simply name the Lord, without putting to þ^e pronoune our. So may the deuils well call the Lord, and tremble before hys face.

The deuils call the Lord in such sort as the Phariseis did, when they brought the adulteresse before hym, and called hym Maister: yet neyther attended they to his doctrine, nor intended to be his disciples: Whose case I trust is nothing lyke to ours, which knowe and confesse (as we speake) hym to bee the true Lord withall our hart, so as true Christians ought to do.

MarginaliaThe church. I know you hold wel the church to be, where the word is truly preached, and the Sacramentes sincerely ministred, accordyng as they are left of Christ

and his holy Apostles.

That do I beleue, and in that wil I lyue and die.

Do not you beleue that whosoeuer is without that church, cannot obtaine remission of his sinnes?

Who so euer doth seperate himselfe from þ^e church to make either sect, part, or diuision, cannot obtayne as you say.

MarginaliaTwo Churches. Now let vs consider two churches, the one wherein the word is rightly preached and Sacraments administred accordingly as they be left vnto vs: The other wherin the word and Sacraments be vsed cōtrarily. Which of these ij. ought we to beleue?

The first.

Well sayd. Next is now to speake of the giftes geun to the sayd Church: as the power of the keyes, confession for remission of sinnes, after we be confessed to a Priest. Also we must beleue the vij. Sacramentes in the same Church, truely administred, as they be here in the Churches of Paris, where the Sacrament of the aultar is ministred, and the Gospell truly preached.

Sir, now you begin to halte. As for my part, I do not receiue in the church, mo then ij. Sacraments which be instituted in the same, for the whole cōmunaltie of MarginaliaPower of the keyes. Christians. And as concernyng the power of the keyes and your MarginaliaConfession. confessiō, I beleue, that for remission of our sinnes, we ought to goe to none other, but onely to God, as we read 1. Iohn. 1. If we confesse our sinnes, God is faithful and iust, to pardon our offences, and he will purge vs from all our iniquities. &c. Also in the Prophet Dauid, Psal. 19. and 32. I haue opened my sinne vnto thee. &c.

Should I not beleue that Christ in the tyme of his apostles, gaue to them power to remitte sinnes?

The power that Christ gaue to hys Apostles, if it be well considered, is nothyng disagreyng to my saying: And therfore I beganne to say (which here I confesse) that the Lorde gaue to hys Apostles to preache the worde, and so to remitte sinnes by the same worde.

Do you then deny auricular confession?

Yea verily I do.

Ought we to pray to Saintes?

I beleue no.

Tell me that I shall aske: Iesus Christ beyng here vpon the earth, was he not then as well sufficient to heare the whole world, and to be intercessor for all, as he is now?

Yes.

MarginaliaIntercession of Sainctes. But we finde, that when he was here on earth, his Apostles made intercession for the people, & why may they not do the same as well now also?

So long as they were in the world, they exercised their ministery, and prayed one for an other, as needyng humane succours together: but now they beyng in Paradise, all their prayer that they make, is this: that they wish that they which be yet on earth, may attaine to their felicitie: but to obtain any thing at the fathers hand, we must haue our recourse onely to his sonne.

If one man haue such charge to pray for an other, may not he then be called an intercessour?

I graunt.

Well then, you say there is but one intercessour. Wherupon I inferre, that I being bound to pray for