MarginaliaAnno 1555. February.as Christ required thē to be denyed, and geuē in his cause,
And now to come to the examination of this good man; after that the Bishops had kept him one whole yeare and a quarter in prison, at the length they called him, as they did the rest of his felowes, MarginaliaM. Saūders brought to examination.openly to be examined. Of the which his first examination the effect and purpose thus foloweth.
[Back to Top]This Examination of Saunders is given in the Emmanuel Coll. MSS. 2. 2, which begins, "It is not vnknown," and ends, "Pray for me wretched sinner." This can hardly be called Saunders's "first examination;" this appearance was most likely that mentioned ... as occurring January 30th. Strype gives a longer list of persons present as judges, than Foxe does in that place; viz. the bishops of Durham, Worcester, Ely, Lincoln, Bath and Wells, Norwich, Lichfield, and Carlisle, as "co-assessors," and "the Duke of Norfolk, the Lord Wharton, the Lord Lumley, Leonard Chamberlayn, and Robert Drury, Knights; Thomas Hussey, John Vaughan, Thomas Martyn, Esqrs.; R. [perhaps Edward Wotton, and John Warner, doctors in physic; Hugh Coren, David Poole, Nicholas Harpesfield, doctors of law; Thomas Watson, John Seton, doctors of divinity; Philip Morgan, John Boxal, Seth Holland, bachelors in divinity; Richard Chandler, Archdeacon of Sarum, and very many others." (Memorials.) Still it is hardly correct to say, as Foxe does three lines lower, that Saunders was then "convented before the Queen's most honourable Privy Council, sundry bishops being present."
[Back to Top]In 1563, this is headed Laurence Saunders' first examination. Apparently, as a later comment by Foxe makes clear, Gardiner examined Saunders twice.
PRaysed be our gracious God who preserueth his from euill, and doth geue them grace to auoyd al such offēces as might hinder his honor, or hurt his Church. Amen.
MarginaliaThe first examination of M. Saūders.Being conuented before the Queenes most honorable Councell, sundry bishops being present, the Lord Chauncellor began to speake in such forme as foloweth.
L. Chan. It is not vnknowne, that you haue bene Prisoner for such abhominable heresies & false doctrine as hath bene sowne by you: and now it is thought good that mercy be shewed to such as seeke for it Wherfore if now you will shew your selfe conformable, & come home agayne, mercy is ready. We must say that we haue fallen in maner all: but now we bee risen agayne, and returned to the Catholicke churche, you must rise with vs, and come home vnto it. Geue vs forthwith a direct aunswere.
[Back to Top]Saun. My Lord, and my Lordes all, my it please your honors to geue me leaue to aunswere with deliberation.
Chan. Leaue of your painting and pride of speech. For such is the fashion of you all, to please your selues in your glorious wordes. Aunswere, yea or nay.
MarginaliaM. Saunders standeth vpon his conscience.Saund. My Lord, it is no time for me now to paynt. And as for pride, there is no great cause why it should be in me. My learning I confesse to be but small: and as for riches or worldly wealth I haue none at all. Notwithstanding it standeth me in hand to aūswere to your demaund circumspectly, considering that one of these two extreme perilles are like to fall vpon me: the losing of a good conscience, or þe losing of this my bodye and life. And I tell you trueth, I loue both life and liberty, if I coulde enioy them without the hurt of my conscience.
[Back to Top]Chan. Conscience? you haue none at all, but pride and arrogancy, * Marginalia* Of this diuiding speaketh S. Paule. 2. Cor. 6. & Ierem. 50. Come out and diuide your selues from them. &c.deuiding your selues by singularitye from the Church.
Saund. The Lorde is the knower of all mens consciences. And where your Lordship layeth to my charge thys deuiding my selfe from the Church (as you do mean, & is now among you concluded vpon, as I do vnderstand) I do assure you, that I lyue in the fayth wherein I haue bene brought vp sithens I was 14. yeare old: being taught that the power of the B. of Rome is but vsurped, wt many other abuses springing thereof. Yea, this I haue receiued euen at your hands that are here present, as a thing agreed vpon by the Catholicke Church and publicke authority.MarginaliaArgument. Conscience ought neuer to stand vpon things vncertaine. Tyme and authoritye be thinges of themselues alwayes vncertayne: Ergo, conscience ought neuer to stand vpon tyme and authoritye.
[Back to Top]Chan. Yea mary, but I pray you, haue you receiued by cōsent and authoritye all your heresies of the blessed Sacrament of the aultar?
Saund. My Lorde, it is lesse offence to cutte off an arme, hand, or ioynt of a man, then to cut of the head. For þe man may liue though he do lacke an arme, hand or ioynt, and so he can not without his head. But you, all the whole sort of you, haue agreed to cut of the supremacy of the Bishop of Rome, whome now you will haue to be the head of your Church agayne.
[Back to Top]Bish. of Lond. And if it like your Lordship, I haue his hand agaynst the blessed sacrament. How say you to that?MarginaliaSi non insanit satis sua sponte, instiga.
Saunders. What I haue written, that I haue written, and farther I will not accuse my selfe. Nothing haue you to burden me withall, for breaking of your lawes since they were in force.
Chan. Well, you be obstinate and refuse liberty.
Saund. My Lord, I may not buy liberty at suche a pryce: MarginaliaA lawfull request, but it could not be heard.but I beseech your honours to be meanes to the Queenes Maiesty for suche a pardon for vs, that wee may liue and keep our consciences vnclogged, and we shal liue as most obedient subiectes. Otherwise, I must say for my selfe, that by Gods grace I will abide the moste extremity that man may do against me, rather then to do against my consciēce.
[Back to Top]Chan. Ah Syrra, you will liue as you list. The Donatistes did desire to liue in singularity: MarginaliaTo liue as the Scripture leadeth vs, is not to liue as we list. The Papists desire the Pope, the Protestants Christ onely to be their head: Now which of these two be most like the Donatistes. but in deed they were not meete to liue on earth: no more be you, and that shall you vnderstand within these seuen dayes: and therefore away with him.
[Back to Top]Saund. Welcome be it, whatsoeuer the will of God shalbe, either life or death. And I tell you truely, I haue learned to dye. But I exhort you to beware of shedding of innocēt bloud. Truly it will cry. The spirite of God rest vpon all your honors, Amen. This is the summe and forme of my
first examination. Pray. &c.
This examination being ended the officers led him out of the place, & so stayed vntill the rest of his fellowes were likewise handled, that they might haue them altogether to prison. Laurence Saunders standing among the Officers seing there a great multitude of people, MarginaliaM. Saunders freely preacheth Christ.opened his mouth and spake freely, warning them wel of that, which by their falling from Christ to Antichrist they did deserue; & therefore exhorting them by repentaunce to rise agayne, and to embrace Christ with stronger fayth, to confesse him to the end, in the defiance of Antichrist, sinne, death & the deuill: so should they reteine the Lordes fauor and blessing.
[Back to Top]MarginaliaThe 2. examination here lacketh.The copyes of his other examinations and excommunication came to the hands of such as do keepe them still in secret.
Foxe is prodding anyone who might have a copy of Saunders' other examination or any of his other writings to make them available to him.
MarginaliaM. Saunders degraded by B. Boner. THe fourth day of February, the Bishop of London did come to the prisō where he was, to disgrade him: which when he had done, Laurence Saunders sayd to hym: I thanke God I am none of your Church.
MarginaliaM. Saunders caryed to Couentrye.The day folowing in the morning, the Shriffe of London deliuered him to certayn of the Queenes Gard, which were appoynted to cary him to the City of Couētry, there to be burned. The fyrst night they came to S. Albōs, wher M. Grimoald (a man who had more store of good giftes, then of great constancy) did speake with him.
[Back to Top]After M. Saunders had geuen him a lesson meete for his lightnes, he tooke a cup into his hand, and asked him if he would pledge him of that cup, of which he would begin to him.
Saunders is referring to Christ's words in the garden of Gethsemane (see Matthew 26:39, Mark 14:36 and Luke 22:42).
"Begun to me" seems to be equivalent to "hath challenged." Bishop Hall, in his Contemplations (The two Sons of Zebedee), writes, "O blessed Saviour, we pledge thee according to our weakness who hast begun to us in thy powerful sufferings;" and Herbert has "My flesh began unto my soul," page 94. Lond. 1824. See also Hanmer's Translation of Evagrius, book i. cap. 11. Bishop Reynolds, in his "Meditations on the Lord's Last Supper," (chap. 8.) furnishes another example of the same idiom; "Because he himself did begin unto us in a more bitter cup." - ED. Appendix: ref page 627, note Additional instances may be cited from Strype's "Ecclesiastical Memorials," under Mary (chap. 23), p. 187, old ed.; vol. iv. p. 308, edit. 1816: - "Then was there a cup of wine called for, and the sheriff began unto me, and willed me to drink to the Marshall's men, and so I did." Also from Bishop Jewel, on the 1 Epist. Thess. iii. 3: - "Drink the cup of bitter gall, whereof Christ began to thee; and carry thy cross, that thou mayst folow him." And another instance may be seen in Dr. Thomas James' "Explanation of Ten Articles," 1625, p. 34.
[Back to Top]After they were come to Country, MarginaliaA good Shoomaker of Couentrye.the same nyght a poor Shoomaker, which was wont to serue him of shoes, came to him after his maner & sayd: O my good Mayster God strengthen and comfort you. Gramercies good Shoomaker, quoth M. Saunders, and I pray thee to pray for me: for I am the vnmeetest man for this high office, that euer was appoynted to it: but my gracious God and deare father is able to make me strōg enough. MarginaliaM. Saunders put in the common gayle in Couentrye.That same night he was put into the common Gayle among other prisoners, where he slept litle, but spent the night in prayer, and instructing of others.
[Back to Top]MarginaliaFebruary. 8. M. Saunders brought to the place of execution.The next day, which was the viij. of Februarye hee was lead to the place of execution in the Parcke without the City, going in an old gowne, and a shyerte, barefooted, and afttimes fell flat on the ground and prayed.
There is a considerable similarity to Hugh Latimer's costume at his execution. This suggests that Saunders's garb was part of a deliberate strategy of self-presentation, probably designed to evoke Christ's passion.
And thus haue ye the full history of Laurēce Saūders whom I may well compare to S. Laurence, or any other of the old Martyrs of Christes church: both for the feruent zeale of the truth and Gospell of Christ, & the most cōstant pacience in his suffering: as also for the cruell tormēts that