MarginaliaAnno 1558.Eliz. These wordes really and corporally, I vnderstond not: as for substantially, I take it, ye meane I should beleue that I should receiue his humane body (which is vpon the right hand of God, and can occupy no moe places at once) and that beleeue not I.
Chanc. Thou must beleeue this, or els thou art damned.
Eliz. Sir, can ye geue me beliefe or fayth?
Chanc. No, God must geue it thee.
Eliz. God hath geuen me no such fayth or beliefe.
The Chauncellor then declared a text of S. Paule in Latine, and then in English, saying: I could make thee beleeue, but that thou hast a cankered heart, and wilt not beleeue. Who then can make thee to beleeue?
MarginaliaFayth commeth of God: Ergo, no vntruth ought to be beleued.Eliz. You sayd euen now, that fayth or beliefe commeth of God, and so beleeue I, and then may not I beleue an vntruth to be a truth.
Chanc. Doest thou not beleeue that Christes flesh is flesh in thy flesh?MarginaliaChrist is fleshe of our fleshe, but not in our fleshe. MarginaliaIohn. 6.
Eliz. No sir, I beleeue not that, for my flesh shall putrifie and rot.
Chanc. Christ sayd, my flesh is flesh in flesh.
Eliz. Who so receiueth him fleshly, shall haue a fleshly resurrection.
Chanc. Christ sayeth in the 6. of Iohn: My fleshe is meate in deed, and my bloud is drinke in deed.
Eliz. Christ preached to the Capernaits, saying: Except ye eate the flesh of the sonne of man, and drinke his bloud, ye shall not haue lyfe in you: and the Capernaites murmured at it. And his Disciples also murmured, saying among themselues: This is an hard saying, and who can abide it? Christe vnderstoode their meanyng, and sayde: Are ye also offended? Will ye also goe away? What and if ye shall see the sonne of man ascende vp to heauen from whence hee came? will that offende you? It is the spirite that quickeneth, the fleshe profiteth nothyng. I praye you Sir, what meaneth Christ by that?
[Back to Top]MarginaliaThis man dare not expound the Scripture, yet he dare iudge vpon heresie.Chanc. O God forbid. Would ye haue me to interprete the Scriptures? We must leaue that for our olde auncient fathers, which haue studied scriptures a long tyme, & haue the holy ghost geuen vnto them.
Eliz Why sir, haue ye not the holy ghost geuen and reuealed vnto you?
MarginaliaThe Papists dare not assure them selues to haue the holy Ghost.Chanc. No, God forbid that I should so beleeue: but I hope, I hope: But ye say, ye are of the spirit. Will you say that ye haue no profit in Christes flesh?
Eliz. Sir, we haue our profite in Christes flesh, but not as the Capernaites did vnderstand it: MarginaliaThe Capernaites faith.For they vnderstoode that they must eate his fleshe as they did eate Oxe fleshe and other, and drinke his bloud, as we drinke Wyne or Beere out of a Bole. But so we must not receyue it. But our profite that we haue by Christ, is to beleeue that hys body was broken vpon the Crosse, and his bloude shedde for our sinnes: MarginaliaThe place of Iohn. cap. 6. expounded how Christes fleshe is meate.That is the very meanyng of Christ, that so we should eate his fleshe, and drinke hys bloude, when he sayde: My fleshe is meate in deede, and my bloud is drinke in deede.
[Back to Top]Chanc. How doth thy body lyue, if Christes flesh bee not flesh in thy flesh¿
Eliz. Sir, I was a body before I had a soule: which body God had created, & yet it could not lyue, til God had breathed lyfe into me, and by that lyfe doth my body lyue. And when it shall please God to dissolue my lyfe, my flesh will offer it selfe vnto the place from whence it came, & through the merites of Christ, my soule wil offer it selfe to the place from whence it came.
[Back to Top]MarginaliaChristes flesh is flesh in our flesh, say the Papistes.Chanc. Yea, but if thou doe not beleeue that Christes flesh is flesh in thy flesh, thou canst not be saued.
Eliz. Sir, I do not beleeue that.
Chauncel. Why, doth not Christ saye: My fleshe is meate in deede, and my bloude is drinke in deede? Canst thou denye that?
MarginaliaChristes fleshe is meate for our soule, say the Christians.Eliz. I denye not that: for Christes fleshe and bloude is meate and drinke for my soule, the foode of my soule. For who so euer beleeueth that Iesus Christ the sonne of God hath dyed and shed his bloud for his sinnes, his soule feedeth thereon for euer.
[Back to Top]Chauncel. When thou receiuest the Sacrament of the aultar, doest thou not beleeue that thou doest receiue Christes body?
Eliz. Sir, when I do receiue the Sacrament which Christ did institute and ordaine the night before he was betraied, and left among hys Disciples, as often (I say) as I receiue it, I beleeue that spiritually, and by fayth I receyue Christ.MarginaliaIn the Sacrament ministred & receaued according to Christes institution, we receaue Christ.And of this Sacrament, I knowe Christ himselfe to be the author, and none but hee. And this same Sacrament is an establishment to my conscience, & an augmenting to my fayth.
[Back to Top]Chaunc. Why did not Christ take bread and gaue thankes,
and brake it, and gaue it to his Disciples, and sayde: Take, eate, this is my body that is geuen for you? Did he geue them his body, or no?
Elizabeth. He also tooke the cuppe and gaue thankes to his Father, and gaue it vnto his Disciples, saying: Drynke ye all hereof: for this is the Cuppe of the newe Testament in my bloude which shall bee shedde for many. Nowe I praye you Sir, let me aske you one question: MarginaliaOne question solued by an other.Dyd he geue the cup the name of hys bloud, or els the wyne that was in the cuppe?
[Back to Top]Then was he very angry and sayd: Doest thou think that thou hast an hedge priest in hand?
Eliz. No sir, I take you not to bee an hedge priest. I take you for a Doctor.
Chauncel. So me thinketh: Thou wilt take vpon thee to teach me.
Eliz. No sir: But I let you know what I know: and by argument one shall know more.
Christ sayd: As oft as ye do this, do it in the remembrance of me: but a remembrance is not of a thing present, but absent. Also S. Paule saith: MarginaliaThe Sacrament a witnes both of Christes death and of his comming agayne.So oft as ye shall eate of this bread, and drinke of this cup, ye shall shew forth the Lordes death till he come. Then we may not looke for hym here, vntill his cōmyng agayne at the latter day. Agayne, is not this article of our beliefe true: He sitteth at the right hand of God the father almighty: from thence he shall come to iudge the quicke and the dead? But if hee shall not come, before hee come to iudgement, then how is he here present in your sacrament of the aultar? Wherefore I beleeue that MarginaliaChristes body occupyeth but one place at once.the humaine bodye of Christ occupieth no more but one place at once, for when he was here, he was not there.
[Back to Top]MarginaliaThe 6 examination of Elizabeth Young.WHo sayd vnto her: Woman, the last tyme that thou wast before me, our talke was concernyng the Sacrament.
Eliz. Sir, true it is, and I trust that I sayd nothyng that ye can deny by the scriptures.
MarginaliaThe fleshly reason of the Papistes.Chanc. Yes thou wilt not beleeue that Christes fleshe is flesh in thy flesh.
Eliz. No sir, God hath geuen me no such beliefe, for it can not be found by the scriptures.
Chanc. Wilt thou beleue nothing but what is in the scripture? Why, how many Sacraments doest thou find in the Scripture?
Eliz. The church of Christ doth set forth twaine.
Chanc. I will as well finde seuen by the scripture, as thou shalt finde twaine.
Eliz. Sir, I talke not to you thereof, but I saye that MarginaliaName of Sacramentes geuen by the Church.the church of Christ setteth out twaine, & I haue bene taught no more.
Chanc. What are those twaine?
MarginaliaTwo Sacramentes.Eliz. The Sacrament of Christes body and bloud, and the sacrament of Baptise.
Chauncellour. What sayest thou by the Sacramente of MarginaliaWedlocke.Wedlocke?
Eliz. I haue not heard it called a Sacrament, but the holy estate of matrimony, which ought to be kept of all mē that take it vpon them.
Chanc. How sayest thou by Priestes? MarginaliaPriestes mariage.Is it good that they should marrie? is it to be kept of them?
Eliz. I come not hither to reason any such matters, for I am no Diuine, and also it is no part of my faith.
Chanc. Can ye not tell? ye shall tell or euer you go.
Eliz. Sir, then must ye keepe me a good while, for I haue not studied the scriptures for it.
Chaunc. No? why, ye will not be ashamed to flee vnto the highest mysterie, euen to the Sacrament at the first dashe, and ye are not afrayd to argue with the best doctour in the lande.
Eliz. Gods mysteries I will not meddle wt, but all things that are written, are written for our edification.
Chanc. What say ye by MarginaliaPraying for the dead.prayer for the dead? is it not meete that if a mans friend be dead, his friend cōmend his soule vnto God?
Eliz. There is no Christian man that will commend hys friend nor his foe, vnto the Deuill. And whether it be good for him, when he is dead or no, sure I am, that it is good when he is alyue.
Chaunc. Then thou allowest not prayer to bee good for thē when they be dead, & lying in MarginaliaPurgatory.Purgatory. Is it not meete that prayer be made vnto God for them?
Eliz. Sir, I neuer heard in the Scriptures of Purgatory, but in the scripture I haue heard of heauen and hell.
Chaunc. Why, ye haue nothing but the skimmyng of the Scriptures. MarginaliaOblation for the dead.Our auncient fathers could finde out in the