to be obedient to tyrantes, while they are vitious tyrants, since their will, their counsell, their biddings, and theyr workes are so vitious, that they ought to be hated & lefte. And though such tyrantes be maisterfull and cruel in boasting and manasing, in oppressions & diuers punishinges: S. Peter biddeth the seruanntes of such tyrauntes, to obey meekely such tyrantes, sufferinges paciently their malitious cruelnes. Marginalia Two maner of obeying: 1. In folowing their doinges and examples. 2. In suffering their wronges. But Peter counselleth not any seruaunt or subiect, to obey to any Lord or Prince, or soueraign in any thing that is not pleasing to God. Marginalia Wicked rulers are not to be folowed in euill.

¶ And the Archbishop sayd vnto me. If a soueraigne byd his subiect do that thing that is vitious, this soueraygne herein is to blame: but the subiect for his obedience, deserueth meede of God. For obedience pleaseth more to God, than any sacrifice. Marginalia Well reasoned my lord and lyke a clarke.

☞ And I sayd. Samuell the Prophet sayd to Saule the wicked king, that God was more pleased with þ^e obediēce of his commaundement, then with any sacrifice of beastes. But Dauid saieth, and S. Paule, and S. Gregory accordingly together, that not onely they that do euill, are worthy of death and damnation: but also they that cōsent to euill doers. Marginalia Obedience not to be geuen, but in things leful and lawfull. And sir, the law of holy Church teacheth in the decrees, that no seruant to his Lord, nor childe to the father or mother, nor wife to her husband, nor monke to his Abbot, ought to obey, except in lefull things, and lawfull.

¶ And the Archbishop said to me. All these alledgings that thou bringest forth, are not els but proude presumptuousnesse. Marginalia All is presumption that stādeth against your maisterfull ambition. For hereby thou inforcest thee to proue, that thou and such other are so iust, that ye ought not to obey to Prelats. And thus against the learnyng of S. Paule that teacheth you not to preach, but if ye were sent: of your owne authoritie, ye will go forth and preach, and do what ye list.

☞ And I saide. Syr, Marginalia Priestes in that they take priesthood, they are sent to preach. presenteth not euery Priest the office of the Apostles, or the office of the disciples of Christ? And the Archbishop sayd, yea.

Marginalia Math. 10. Marke vlt. Luke 10. And I sayde. Syr, as the x. chapt. of Mathew, and the last chapter of Marke witnesseth: Christ sent his Apostles for to preach. And the x. chapter of Luke witnesseth, that Christ sent his two and seuēty disciples for to preach, in euery place that Christ was to come to. Marginalia The office of priesthood, is the office of preaching. And S. Gregorie in the cōmon law saith, that euery man that goeth to priesthoode, taketh vpon him the office of preaching: For as hee sayth, that Priest stirreth God to great wrath, of whose mouth is not heard the voyce of preaching. And as other more gloses vpon Ezechiell, witnesse: that the Prieste that preacheth not busilye to the people, shall be partaker of their damnation that perish through his default. And though the people be saued by other speciall grace of God then by the Priestes preaching, yet the Priests, in that they are ordeined to preach, and preach not, as before God, they are manslears. Marginalia Priests that preach not, be slayers of the people For as farre as in them is, such Priests as preach not busily and truely, sleyeth all the people ghostly: in that they withholde from them the word of God, that is loue and sustenaunce of mens soules. Marginalia Isidorus. And Saynt Isydore sayd, Priestes shall be damned, for wickednesse of the people, if they teach not them that are ignoraunt, or blame not them that are sinners. For all the worke or businesse of Priestes, standeth in preaching and teaching, that they edify all men, Marginalia Doctrine of fayth. Discipline of workes. as well by cunning of fayth, as by discipline of workes, that is vertuous teaching. And as the Gospell witnesseth: Christ sayd in his teaching. I am borne & comē into this world, to beare witnesse to the truth, and he that is of the truth, heareth my voyce.

Then Sir, since by the word of Christ specially, that is his voyce, Priestes are commaunded to preache: Marginalia Priests not onely sent to preach, but cōmanded to preach. whatsoeuer priest that it be, that hath not good wil and full purpose to doe thus, and ableth not himselfe after his cunning and power to doe his office by the example of Christ and of hys Apostles: whatsoeuer other thing that he doth displeaseth God. For loe, Marginalia Gregorius. S. Gregory sayth, that thing left, that a man is bound chiefly to do, whatsoeuer other thing that a man doth: it is vnthankfull to the holy ghost: and therfore sayth Lincolne: Marginalia Lincolniensis. Whatsoeuer a man doth leauing that vndone which hee is chieflye bound to do, is sinne. The Priest that preacheth not the word of God, though he be seene to haue none other defaulte, his is Antichrist and Sathanas, a night theefe, and a day theefe, a sleyer of soules, and an aungel of light turned into darckenes, Wherefore Syr, these authorityes and other well considered, I deme my selfe damnable, if I either for pleasure or displeasure of any creature, apply me uot diligētly to prech the word of God. And in the same damnation I deeme all those Priestes, which of good purpose and will, enforce thē not busily to do thus, & also all them that haue purpose or will to let any Priest of this busines.

Marginalia Yet this byshop plucketh him not by the beard, nor burneth not of his hand, as Boner did. ¶ And the Archbishop sayde to those 3. Clerkes that stoode before him. Lo Syrs, this is the maner and busines of this Losell and such other to picke out such sharpe sentence of holy Scripture and Doctours, to mayntayne theyr sect &lore agaynst the ordinaunce of holy Church.Marginalia Holychurch [illegible text] And therefore Losell, it is thou that couetest to haue agayne the Psalter that I made to be taken frō thee at Caunterbury, to record sharpe verses agaynst vs. But thou shalt neuer haue that Psalter, nor none other booke, till that I know þ^t thy hart & thy mouth accord fully, to be gouerned by holy Church.

☞ And I sayd: Syr, all my will and power is, & euer shal be (I trust to God) to be gouerned by holy Church.

¶ And the Archbishop asked me, what was holy Church.

☞ And I sayd: Syr, I tolde you before, what was holye Church. But since ye aske me this demaund: I call Christ and his Saintes holy Church.

¶ And the Archbishoppe sayd vnto me. I wote well that Christ and his Saintes are holy Churche in heauen, but what is holy Church in earth?

☞ And I sayd: Syr, though holy Churche be euery one in charity, yet it hath two partes. Marginalia 2. Partes of the Church. The first and principall part, hath ouercomen perfectly all the wretchednesse of this life, and raigneth ioyfully in heauen with Christ. And the other part is here yet in earth, busily & continually fighting day and night agaynst temptations of the fiend: forsaking and hating the prosperity of this world, dispising and withstāding theyr fleshly lustes, which onely are the pilgrimes of Christ, wandring toward heauen by stedfast fayth & groūded hope, and by perfect charity. For these heauenly pilgrimes, may not, nor will not, be letted of their good purpose, by the reasō of any doctors discording from holy scripture, nor by the floudes of any tribulation temporall, nor by the wind of any pride, of boast, or of manasing of any creature: For they are all fast grounded vpon the sure stone Christ, hearing his word and louing it, exercising them faithfully and continually in all their wittes to do therafter.

And the Archbishop sayd to his Clerkes. See ye not how his hart is indurate, and how he is trauelled with the deuill occupying him thus busily to alledgr such sentences to mayntaine his errours and heresies? Certayne, thus he would occupy vs here all day, if we would suffer him.

One of the clerkes aunswered, Marginalia Well helpt forward M. Clark. Sir, he sayd right now that this certification that came to you from Shrewsbury, is vntruely forged agaynst him. Therefore sir, appose you him nowe heare in all þ^e points which are certified against him, & so we shall heare of his own mouth his answeres, and witnesse them.

And the Archb. took the certification in his hand, & looked theron a while, and then he sayd to me.

Loe here it is certified against thee by worthy men and faithfull of Shrewsbury, that thou preachedst there openly in S. Chads church: that the Sacramēt of the aultar was material bread after the consecratiō, what sayst thou? Was this truely preached? Marginalia The foresayd articles reneued against Thorpe.

☞ And I sayd: Sir, I tell you truly þ^t I touched nothing therof the sacrament of þ^e aultar, but in this wise, as I will with Gods grace tel you here. As I stood there in the pulpit, busiyng me to teach the commaundemēt of God: there knilled a sacring bel, & therfore mickle people turned away hastily, and with noyse ran fro towardes me. And I seing this, sayd io them thus: Good men ye were better to stand here still and to heare Gods word. Marginalia The vertue of the sacrament standeth in the beliefe, more then in the outward signe. For certes the vertue & the mede of the most holy Sacrament of the aultar stādeth mikle more in the beliefe therof þ^t ye ought to haue in your soule, thē it doth in the outward sight therof. And therfore, ye were better to stand still quietly to heare gods word, because that through þ^e hearing therof, mē come to very true belief. And otherwise sir, I am certaine I spake not there, of the worthy sacrament of the aultar.

¶ And the Archb. sayd to me: I beleeue thee not whatsoeuer thou sayst, since so worshipful mē haue witnessed thus agaynst thee. But since thou deniest that thou sayedst thus there, what sayst thou now? Resteth there after the consecration in the host, materiall bread or no? Marginalia Material bread.

☞ And I sayd: sir I know in no place in holy Scripture where this terme materiall bread is written: and therfore sir, whē I speak of this matter, I vse not to speake of materiall bread.

¶ Then the Archb. sayd to me: How teachest thou men to beleue in this sacrament?

☞ And I sayd: Syr, as I beleeue my selfe, so I teach other men.

¶ He sayd, tell out playnely thy beliefe thereof.

☞ And I sayd with my protestation: Sir, I beleeue that the night before that Christ Iesu woulde suffer (wilfully) passiō for mankind on the morne after: he took bread in his holy and most worshipfull hands, lifting vp his eyes, and giuyng thankes to God his father, blessed this bread and brake it, and gaue it to his disciples, saying to them: Take and eate of this all you, this is my body. And that this is & ought to be all mens beliefe, Mathew, Marke, Luke and